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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Guacamolefletcher said:
LOOOOL 😭😭😭😭😭

BTW guys: I got fully caught up with the anime. Something I found interesting is there is no mention of Vollstandig Lille's powers being light-based or light-adjacent in the anime. In the manga, even in the colored one, Lille's attacks look like completely light-based attacks, moving in extremely straight lines, and they're mentioned to be light from what I remember (will double-check).

In the anime, however, we know that Vollstandig's are given their individual colors. In the first cour public version, they're all blue like in the original colored manga, but they changed it in the Blu-ray and second season. Lille's color theme is changed to green, with the same effects that every Vollstandig has (see this image). Also, it matches his limited vollstandig form (eye closed, which he uses vs the zero squad), while in the manga its different.
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Also, in the anime, it's a lot clearer that the attacks are moving nigh-instantly in comparison to Shunsui (with him aim-dodging), while in the manga it looks like he's dodging them after they're fired.

Also, I went back to read and they're never explicitly referred to as light in the most explicit way possible. Lille calls it his "light of judgement" (name of the attack), but I do think there is a strong basis for this to be literal light (will not try implementing it to the wiki). He uses his attacks to shine on shadows, and there are shadows created by them. Also Lisa says he emits "'divine' light," and she calls it light directly in chapter 653 (page 10).
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
Also, in the anime, it's a lot clearer that the attacks are moving nigh-instantly in comparison to Shunsui (with him aim-dodging), while in the manga it looks like he's dodging them after they're fired.

Also, I went back to read and they're never explicitly referred to as light in the most explicit way possible. Lille calls it his "light of judgement" (name of the attack), but I do think there is a strong basis for this to be literal light (will not try implementing it to the wiki). He uses his attacks to shine on shadows, and there are shadows created by them. Also Lisa says he emits "'divine' light," and she calls it light directly in chapter 653 (page 10).
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No?
 
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Peak fiction dropped. The music was beautiful
 
This episode <3 Nemu is stronger than Kenpachi now. + CYFOW is not canon with the post scene credit ??
 
Pernida’s nerves allow him to hijack your own body and turn it against you. Base Pernida doesn’t scale to Kenpachi. Kenpachi scales to Kenpachi, and that’s what Pernida used to harm Kenpachi.

Also, Mayuri can de-zombify people. So Candice and Mini being zombies doesn’t contradict CFYOW at all.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Pernida’s nerves allow him to hijack your own body and turn it against you. Base Pernida doesn’t scale to Kenpachi. Kenpachi scales to Kenpachi, and that’s what Pernida used to harm Kenpachi.

Also, Mayuri can de-zombify people. So Candice and Mini being zombies doesn’t contradict CFYOW at all.
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IN CYFOW -> We went to rescue them, but we didn’t make it in time. They were captured by the Twelfth Company right after his majesty used Auswählen to take their Voll Stern Dich. Lord Najahkoop’s status is unknown too, although we believe he was transferred as well.
 
GinDan said:
IN CYFOW -> We went to rescue them, but we didn’t make it in time. They were captured by the Twelfth Company right after his majesty used Auswählen to take their Voll Stern Dich. Lord Najahkoop’s status is unknown too, although we believe he was transferred as well.
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A minor detail being retconned =/= the entire story is retconned. Like we already know minor details are being retconned with Shinji’s Bankai being used.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I guess also, since the Sternritter more explicitly teamed up with Gotei 13, Mayuri could’ve snatched them still, gave them back, and then snatched them again after Yhwach btfo them. If you wanted to be pedantic
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I think this scene kinda explains why Candice and Meninas were weakened in general, in CFYOW. Auswählen took their Vollständig, but Giselle's Schrift made them even weaker.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Pernida’s nerves allow him to hijack your own body and turn it against you. Base Pernida doesn’t scale to Kenpachi. Kenpachi scales to Kenpachi, and that’s what Pernida used to harm Kenpachi.

Also, Mayuri can de-zombify people. So Candice and Mini being zombies doesn’t contradict CFYOW at all.
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Was hoping blut Pernida would scale to eyepatch base Kenpachi with the ep 34 description,sad.
 
GinDan said:
This episode <3 Nemu is stronger than Kenpachi now.
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She's probably stronger than base Thousand-Year Blood War Kenpachi, but I'm not sure about Shikai or Bankai Kenpachi. Plus, she can only do that temporarily.
GinDan said:
+ CYFOW is not canon with the post scene credit ??
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No, not really. Mayuri can still find Candice and Meninas' corpses and use them in his Kurotsuchi Corpse Unit afterwards.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
No, not really. Mayuri can still find Candice and Meninas' corpses and use them in his Kurotsuchi Corpse Unit afterwards.
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The only minor retcon would be that,in CFYOW, Mayuri states Candice and Meninas were on the verge of death when he found them (and he healed them, saving them), but since we know they're zombies in the anime, that means they're actually dead.

But yeah, this doesn't really change anything regarding CFYOW and its canonicity.
 
The updated OST that played for Nemu just had a grown man crying 😭 😭 😭 this is probably my favorite episode of the cour, what a surprise banger
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
The only minor retcon would be that,in CFYOW, Mayuri states Candice and Meninas were on the verge of death when he found them (and he healed them, saving them), but since we know they're zombies in the anime, that means they're actually dead.

But yeah, this doesn't really change anything regarding CFYOW and its canonicity.
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That's true. I forgot that they weren't fully dead when Mayuri found them.

Still, yeah, this doesn't change much. It's a pretty minor retcon.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Can we talk about their psuedo-Vollstandigs, they have skulls on them. Looks like Giselle kept a small bit of her power left and transferred it to them. Or maybe, it's something else. Thoughts?
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I think they're possibly Pseudo-Voll Stern Dich's. Maybe Giselle saved them before they completely lost their powers? I don't really know.

Still, this is neat. Yhwach gets the Thunderbolt and the Power now (not that they're that useful to him, but still, that's neat).
 
I wonder if anyone has asked Kubo if Szayel appearing was because of the All Seeing Warden of Hell, or if Mayuri was just having a schizo moment whilst on the verge of breaking down 🤔
 
So I have a question about the end credit scene, did Yhwachs Auswahlen killed Candice and Meninas? Since they were turned into Zombies by Giselle.
 
M_Animefan said:
So I have a question about the end credit scene, did Yhwachs Auswahlen killed Candice and Meninas? Since they were turned into Zombies by Giselle.
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I’m thinking that’s probably the case, since Kubo drew death art for them when that happened. However, I wouldn’t have put it past Giselle to finish them off if they survived akin to what she did to Bambi.
 
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