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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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It's actually funny that some people really think a low 2C structure can contain a dimension like dangai.
Oh yes, it has to do with 2A. There are characters here that scales to 2A for same reason without needing the existence of infinite universe. And I agree with the reasoning for that too.
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ichigo is massively hypersonic because it reacts 100 million swords right? ichigo is relative to byakuya and if he could react to 100 million swords shouldn't he destroy byakuya in speed? I mean it doesn't make sense to me that they are relative and ichigo reacts to 100 million blades. maybe it's me who is misunderstanding could you kindly explain it to me?
Hellscream
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No lol
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No Ichigo’s top speed has the MHS calc. Ichigo’s top speed perception blitzes Byakuya. Byakuya only ever competes with Ichigo after Ichigo slows down as is verbatim stated, or when Ichigo isn’t going all out as is also verbatim stated.
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yes lol, if you dont agree go change the standards of the wiki.
EldemadeDityjon
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WOL and SS has different timelines (you can check SS arc where Yoru explains different time flow of WOL and SS, there was a drawing for different timelines)
2 timelines = atleast 2C (Low multi)
Verse is atleast 2-C/Low multi. No one fully scales to it that's all.
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The confusion mostly stems from episode 28 having a scene where Shunsui approaches Aizen's crucifix-thing, and Aizen is still bound in it, but this episode followed the manga's scene more closely.
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Maybe, but who knows?
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so ichigo at maximum speed>>>>byakuya but slows down because of reiatsu right? so ichigo peak mhs. and after he gets tired it is relative to byakuya and therefore the calculation is only valid for byakuya.
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Yes to everything except the bolded bit. MHS ~ Ichigo top speed > Byakuya ~ HHS
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I wanted to say that the calculation is only for ichigo and not byakuya I got confused. thanks now I understand better
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L2C Chad and Yoruichi for tanking Almighty Yhwach attacks , nice.
ReaperAndBlues
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Who knows Arc, fate can be a trickster.
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2-C with Universal/infinite LS is the sweet spot for me.
ReaperAndBlues
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That would be if the cosmology isn't expanded on. 2-C seems to be the best for right now based on what we have
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Anything above tier 2 is too big brain for me.
ReaperAndBlues
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Watch AppleLord still try to upgrade the verse to tier 1
EldemadeDityjon
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We are not sure at the moment. Anything told here will be up to interpretation and changes in the end.
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Someone on discord sent me all the upgrades arguements. The 2A and L1C stuff isn't super solid, as it would give a lot of other verses those ratings if it was accepted, but a low 2C/maybe 2C upgrade I can see.
Keep in mind I don't Bleach scale, but as an outsider I'd be surprised if you guys didn't get at least a low 2C.
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May be not super solid, but solid.
Yeah there are verses up there without super solid stuff.
So.....
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New KlubOutside Q&A:
Q: Regarding the Auswahlen performed in the later part of the story, the Bambies & Bazz-B still retain their Schrifts and there's no sign of them having lost their powers. Taking into consideration that they're part of the younger generation, is it safe to say that they survived due to Auswahlen targeting old Quincies first and having already taken the necessary amount of power that was needed at the time?
Kubo: The necessary amount of power is taken from old and weakened Quincies, in that order. Also, Bazz-B and the girls are young and their abilities are also high level, therefore their protection against Auswahlen is also naturally high which resulted in them only having their powers "reduced".
Q: Are names such as "Kojaku" and "Ginrei Kojaku" passed down within the Ishida family? Or did Uryu come up with them?
Kubo: The names come from documents regarding Japanese Quincies, which are found in the Ishida family.
Q: Regarding the Auswahlen performed in the later part of the story, the Bambies & Bazz-B still retain their Schrifts and there's no sign of them having lost their powers. Taking into consideration that they're part of the younger generation, is it safe to say that they survived due to Auswahlen targeting old Quincies first and having already taken the necessary amount of power that was needed at the time?
Kubo: The necessary amount of power is taken from old and weakened Quincies, in that order. Also, Bazz-B and the girls are young and their abilities are also high level, therefore their protection against Auswahlen is also naturally high which resulted in them only having their powers "reduced".
Q: Are names such as "Kojaku" and "Ginrei Kojaku" passed down within the Ishida family? Or did Uryu come up with them?
Kubo: The names come from documents regarding Japanese Quincies, which are found in the Ishida family.
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I mean... he probably means the Sternritter though.“Japanese Quincies” Kubo foreshadowing the outside world outside if Karakura Town.
Arcker123
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The quincy originated in Europe. We already knew this.“Japanese Quincies” Kubo foreshadowing the outside world outside if Karakura Town.
ReaperAndBlues
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My guy, Yamamoto's lieutenant is literally a British weeb“Japanese Quincies” Kubo foreshadowing the outside world outside if Karakura Town.
Excellence616
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Ichigo is an English translator. He also respects Willam Shakespeare“Japanese Quincies” Kubo foreshadowing the outside world outside if Karakura Town.
EldemadeDityjon
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This is really great. I remember some people arguing Buzz B never resisted Auswahlen.
ReaperAndBlues
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I think this would be grounds to give Bazz and the Bambis a limited resistance to Auswahlen. Bazz already has a possible, but the Bambis don't have any
ReaperAndBlues
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Someone pointed it out on Sakugabooru, but in the scene in episode 29 when Ichigo fought Yhwach after the episode card, he was fighting him with only one hand, since the other was controlled by Yhwach. Pierrot can't stop cooking with the attention to detail
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No? They originated with the Soul King/Yhwach which neither look English sir.
ReaperAndBlues
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HAVE YOU SEEN YHWACH? Bro it's anime, of course no one is looking their race or ethnicity unless their black (even then they're rarely accurate).
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and neither are actually japanese
Excellence616
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Their names alone should tell you.
