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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I still think that statement from manga that say “when Ichigo regained the power after Aizen defeat etc..” when cut Reio, doesn’t mean TS is = final getsuga tensho, because he always had his bankai even when Zangestu gave him the new zanpakuto

New zanpakuto/powers = shikai + bankai
 
More of the effects of Reio's death, Ukitake and Mimihagi get extended scenes, Shunsui and Aizen's talk in the Muken, potentially Uryu vs Ichigo, unless they are adding much more new content to push Ichigo and co. getting blown out of the palace in ep. 30.
 
About scaling shikai Ichigo and Ichibe… would it be possible that Yhwach after fully completing the 9 years of getting his powers back and be able to use the Almighty be more powerful than when he fought Ichibe before that? So Ichibe isn’t necessarily above shikai Ichigo.

Yhwach (getting his power back) > shikai Ichigo > Ichibe > Yhwach (before getting his full power back).
 
About scaling shikai Ichigo and Ichibe… would it be possible that Yhwach after fully completing the 9 years of getting his powers back and be able to use the Almighty be more powerful than when he fought Ichibe before that? So Ichibe isn’t necessarily above shikai Ichigo.

Yhwach (getting his power back) > shikai Ichigo > Ichibe > Yhwach (before getting his full power back).
Yhwach prior to getting his powers back doesn't do anything to a serious Ichibe whatsoever. It's more like post 9 year Yhwach ~ TS Ichigo >>> Ichibe.
 
Yhwach prior to getting his powers back doesn't do anything to a serious Ichibe whatsoever. It's more like post 9 year Yhwach ~ TS Ichigo >>> Ichibe.
He’s still able to affect him with his abilities, like stealing his power for example. And like it’s explained with Yama, he gotta be relevant to him to be able to take and handle his powers.

TS Ichigo has more raw power than Yhwach, but Yhwach stomped with the Almighty. I just said Yhwach > Ichigo with the consideration of everything.
 
He’s still able to affect him with his abilities, like stealing his power for example. And like it’s explained with Yama, he gotta be relevant to him to be able to take and handle his powers.

TS Ichigo has more raw power than Yhwach, but Yhwach stomped with the Almighty. I just said Yhwach > Ichigo with the consideration of everything.
Hax stomped Ichigo
 
He’s still able to affect him with his abilities, like stealing his power for example. And like it’s explained with Yama, he gotta be relevant to him to be able to take and handle his powers.

TS Ichigo has more raw power than Yhwach, but Yhwach stomped with the Almighty. I just said Yhwach > Ichigo with the consideration of everything.
Yhwach stood there and let Ichibe affect him hermano. But yeah Yhwach if you include his hax is definitely overall better than Ichigo.
 
Regarding Ichigo Dangai, I still deduce that Aizen did not feel Ichigo's reiatsu precisely for a similar reason to Ichibei's Zanpakuto. Since Ichigo himself says he incorporated the Getsuga Tensho. This is in addition to Ichibei's speech about Ichigo being surprised by the fact that Ichibei was resurrected by name, where he says that given the nature of their powers this isn't very surprising. Or he could be talking about him and the rest of Division Zero. Of course, without discarding Aizen's speech about transcendent beings. I didn't find the comment about Ichigo Dangai, so I couldn't quote it.
Edit: I must be wrong about Ichibei's speech, probably
 
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How likely would Grimmjow scale to TS Ichigo if this scene happens in the anime
 
CFYOW has Grimmjow below Barragan lol, but again CFYOW has some stupid scaling like they’re still in the arrancar saga.
 
It’s pretty clear in CFYOW that Grimmjow Nel and Hallibel are all relative, so no.
Grimmjow is just careless, he would attack even ichibei
Tony Hawk Pro Scaler here: Grimmjow and Hallibel are stronger than Nel because they're hot, simple as.
 
I was thinking of a Yhwach matchup (for when he becomes 2-C), and there's a character who can kill all past, present, and future versions of the target, as well as all versions of them across every parallel or divergent world simultaneously. I wondered if that could kill Yhwach, but then I remembered this panel. Yhwach rewrites a future in which he has already died to resurrect himself. Does that mean he could bypass this? And if the past aspect is an issue, would Soul King Yhwach with Aca 4 be able to handle it?
 
On another note, what type of immortality should the Soul King have, considering he can't die unless he's killed by a Soul King candidate? Type 5 seems too op and doesn’t quite fit, but I can't think of any other option, does type 8 fit?. It doesn’t seem to be just invulnerability, as Yhwach can pierce him; he just can't die.
 
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