-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
- Thread starter Zoro21043
- Start date
- 1,812
- 1,328
I still think that statement from manga that say “when Ichigo regained the power after Aizen defeat etc..” when cut Reio, doesn’t mean TS is = final getsuga tensho, because he always had his bankai even when Zangestu gave him the new zanpakuto
New zanpakuto/powers = shikai + bankai
New zanpakuto/powers = shikai + bankai
- 16,092
- 12,078
Getsuga Tensho will be used
- 935
- 270
About scaling shikai Ichigo and Ichibe… would it be possible that Yhwach after fully completing the 9 years of getting his powers back and be able to use the Almighty be more powerful than when he fought Ichibe before that? So Ichibe isn’t necessarily above shikai Ichigo.
Yhwach (getting his power back) > shikai Ichigo > Ichibe > Yhwach (before getting his full power back).
Yhwach (getting his power back) > shikai Ichigo > Ichibe > Yhwach (before getting his full power back).
Excellence616
He/Him- 6,040
- 4,353
More and more Getsuga Tensho.
Some of Ichigo's Getsuga has shown to have a little bit of static charge in them especially after release.
- 18,929
- 27,710
Yhwach prior to getting his powers back doesn't do anything to a serious Ichibe whatsoever. It's more like post 9 year Yhwach ~ TS Ichigo >>> Ichibe.
- 935
- 270
He’s still able to affect him with his abilities, like stealing his power for example. And like it’s explained with Yama, he gotta be relevant to him to be able to take and handle his powers.
TS Ichigo has more raw power than Yhwach, but Yhwach stomped with the Almighty. I just said Yhwach > Ichigo with the consideration of everything.
Excellence616
He/Him- 6,040
- 4,353
Hax stomped Ichigo
- 18,929
- 27,710
Yhwach stood there and let Ichibe affect him hermano. But yeah Yhwach if you include his hax is definitely overall better than Ichigo.
- 403
- 210
Getsuga Tensho!!! That was pretty creative of you.
- 1,812
- 1,328
Ukitake/mimihagi for sure
Then elites joining Yhwach
- 18,929
- 27,710
Unohana has the 8000 styles statement
- 1,448
- 172
Regarding Ichigo Dangai, I still deduce that Aizen did not feel Ichigo's reiatsu precisely for a similar reason to Ichibei's Zanpakuto. Since Ichigo himself says he incorporated the Getsuga Tensho. This is in addition to Ichibei's speech about Ichigo being surprised by the fact that Ichibei was resurrected by name, where he says that given the nature of their powers this isn't very surprising. Or he could be talking about him and the rest of Division Zero. Of course, without discarding Aizen's speech about transcendent beings. I didn't find the comment about Ichigo Dangai, so I couldn't quote it.
Edit: I must be wrong about Ichibei's speech, probably
- 18,929
- 27,710
Just as likely for him to scale as has been these past 8+ years since this scan has existed. Aka 0.
How likely would Grimmjow scale to TS Ichigo if this scene happens in the anime
- 935
- 270
No to what?
- 935
- 270
I asked no to what not to whom
- 1,812
- 1,328
Ngl that statement is one of the best in Shonen manga
Mastering completely 8000 different style is beyond any humans Capabilities
Like just the time that require, you need to have a long lifespan to do so
- 1,812
- 1,328
It’s pretty clear in CFYOW that Grimmjow Nel and Hallibel are all relative, so no.
How likely would Grimmjow scale to TS Ichigo if this scene happens in the anime
Grimmjow is just careless, he would attack even ichibei
- 16,092
- 12,078
Tony Hawk Pro Scaler here: Grimmjow and Hallibel are stronger than Nel because they're hot, simple as.
- 11,594
- 8,364
I could do it, I'm built different
- 3,255
- 1,974
So did Reio do the ball greentext to Yhwach?
Bastolan27
He/Him- 1,008
- 1,043
I was thinking of a Yhwach matchup (for when he becomes 2-C), and there's a character who can kill all past, present, and future versions of the target, as well as all versions of them across every parallel or divergent world simultaneously. I wondered if that could kill Yhwach, but then I remembered this panel. Yhwach rewrites a future in which he has already died to resurrect himself. Does that mean he could bypass this? And if the past aspect is an issue, would Soul King Yhwach with Aca 4 be able to handle it?
Bastolan27
He/Him- 1,008
- 1,043
On another note, what type of immortality should the Soul King have, considering he can't die unless he's killed by a Soul King candidate? Type 5 seems too op and doesn’t quite fit, but I can't think of any other option, does type 8 fit?. It doesn’t seem to be just invulnerability, as Yhwach can pierce him; he just can't die.
ReaperAndBlues
He/Him- 3,241
- 3,304
Read Ichigo's profile.
- 8,160
- 2,190
Doesn’t it say only a hybrid can break the seal? Not that only one can kill him?
