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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

He does though?

It's used to further prove FB Ichigo is above all the Post TS Captains ( Bar Yama without his rage amp )

As it was confirmed it was unbreakable

Moon level with Bankai (Ichigo's Bankai destroys a pocket dimension that not even a variety of Captains mounting an all out assault could destroy[47], this includes Zaraki's Ryoudan, and he killed Bankai Ginjo



tbf while I already scale him above them all, I don't know if we should take the statement seriously though ngl as Yukio much like all the Fullbringers is pretty arrogant and Rukia was just taking his statement as face value...there could be something I am not remembering though so if anyone will correct me please do so
 
SlendVeny said:
Aizen doesn't have a massive stamina advantage, right? I'm not sure can win the fight by outlasting Ichigo if he doesn't.
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He’s got infinite stamina on his profile. This fight would go exactly as it did in the manga, except Aizen’s got the Hokyoku under control, and he’s using KS, and Urahara isn’t there to bail Ichigo out.
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
He does though?

It's used to further prove FB Ichigo is above all the Post TS Captains ( Bar Yama without his rage amp )

As it was confirmed it was unbreakable

Moon level with Bankai (Ichigo's Bankai destroys a pocket dimension that not even a variety of Captains mounting an all out assault could destroy[47], this includes Zaraki's Ryoudan, and he killed Bankai Ginjo



tbf while I already scale him above them all, I don't know if we should take the statement seriously though ngl as Yukio much like all the Fullbringers is pretty arrogant and Rukia was just taking his statement as face value...there could be something I am not remembering though so if anyone will correct me please do so
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I mean destroying the dimension cause they was a star in it.
 
TheLav69 said:
He’s got infinite stamina on his profile. This fight would go exactly as it did in the manga, except Aizen’s got the Hokyoku under control, and he’s using KS, and Urahara isn’t there to bail Ichigo out.
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1. Ichigo's whole thing is latent potential, my boy would find a way.
2. Is Aizen just letting them contain him?
 
SlendVeny said:
1. Ichigo's whole thing is latent potential, my boy would find a way.
2. Is Aizen just letting them contain him?
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1. Headcanon.
2. Nah, I think they actually had him contained up until Yhwach broke his chair. I think he’d have escaped on his own eventually if he’d been left there for longer, though.
 
TheLav69 said:
1. Headcanon.
2. Nah, I think they actually had him contained up until Yhwach broke his chair. I think he’d have escaped on his own eventually if he’d been left there for longer, though.
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He probably wanted to stay there to entertain the fact that he deserved what he got. He knows he can basically just leave and it wouldn't really matter anyway since they can't kill him let alone get close to him, but even if he decides to stay for the long haul, he would be alive even after his sentence if he decided to live it out.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
He probably wanted to stay there to entertain the fact that he deserved what he got. He knows he can basically just leave and it wouldn't really matter anyway since they can't kill him let alone get close to him, but even if he decides to stay for the long haul, he would be alive even after his sentence if he decided to live it out.
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I mean, given that Aizen tried to Kurohitsugi his chair and it didn’t work, and even thanked Yhwach for destroying it, I think it’s pretty unlikely that he could’ve just got up and left whenever he wanted.

Unless you’re talking about when he was re-imprisoned after TYBW, I’m not really sure whether he went back willingly or not.
 
TheLav69 said:
I mean, given that Aizen tried to Kurohitsugi his chair and it didn’t work, and even thanked Yhwach for destroying it, I think it’s pretty unlikely that he could’ve just got up and left whenever he wanted.

Unless you’re talking about when he was re-imprisoned after TYBW, I’m not really sure whether he went back willingly or not.
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I was talking about post TYBW
 
I got a question. Is Ichigo immune to KS? I ask this because of this panel:
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which says that KS would not work on Ichigo.
 
Tipper17 said:
Ngl why do people say EOS Aizen beats EOS Ichigo?

Ichigo despite having most of his powers taken away was able to slice SK mustache man in half while Aizen at best could place the latter under a illusion,slashed some of his shadows.

Ywhach had no issues putting a hole in him
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EOS Ichigo is stronger than EOS Aizen in terms of Physical Powers but Aizen got the Hax advantage
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
If Senjumaru has an unrestricted Bankai, she absolutely stomps. Squad 0 is put at the next tier up after the SK candidates
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Wasn’t it stated prior to kenpachi getting Bankai that no soul reaper born after Yamamoto was stronger. Wouldn’t that mean only ichibe and oetsu are above unless squad zero are exempt from this
 
Westcoast5005 said:
Wasn’t it stated prior to kenpachi getting Bankai that no soul reaper born after Yamamoto was stronger. Wouldn’t that mean only ichibe and oetsu are above unless squad zero are exempt from this
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As I understand it, Senjumaru, Hikifune and Tenjiro became stronger after joining Squad 0. Before they joined, they were probably weaker than Yamamoto, but they got a massive power boost after ascending. After their promotion, the Gotei probably did not have accurate information on the their strength, and so it is said that no one was born after Yamamoto that was stronger than him.
 
Westcoast5005 said:
Wasn’t it stated prior to kenpachi getting Bankai that no soul reaper born after Yamamoto was stronger. Wouldn’t that mean only ichibe and oetsu are above unless squad zero are exempt from this
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Squad 0 is more than likely exempt because they are not normal, even the others. Senju's Bankai is also outhaxing Yamamoto to hell and back and one shotting him.
 
Tipper17 said:
Ngl why do people say EOS Aizen beats EOS Ichigo?

Ichigo despite having most of his powers taken away was able to slice SK mustache man in half while Aizen at best could place the latter under a illusion,slashed some of his shadows.

Ywhach had no issues putting a hole in him
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The entire first half of the final fight is essentially Aizen vs Yhwach, which ends with Aizen revealing he was fighting Yhwach alone the whole time and trolling him with Kyoka. Ichigo and Renji only show up at the end, Aizen just made Yhwach believe they showed up earlier, so Aizen did put up a good fight against Yhwach alone.

The gap between TYBW Aizen vs TYBW Ichigo, no matter how big you think it is, is surely smaller than the gap between Mugetsu and 5th Fusion Aizen, and Ichigo still couldn't get it done due to Aizens hax, with Aizen only losing due to Kisuke and his own subconscious desire to be stopped. Aizen just tanks and evolves past Ichigo's best and eventually overtakes him like he nearly did in their final fight. Ichigo gets stomped because he legit lacks a wincon.
 
GOATMAN1232000 said:
Wait, what? Was this in a Klub Q/A? Does this mean that anything within the range of his reiatsu can get put under KS?
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I don't have the references of the top of my head but they're in the profile and accepted. It's specified that Yhwach and Aizen were communicating with Reiatsu, and Aizen filled up Muken with his reiatsu to subtly influence Yhwach. The answer to your question is yes.
 
Tipper17 said:
When was it stated Aizen can still evolve like he did back then
All we know he got stronger than before but don't recall he can just evolve
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Aizen is still with the Hōgyoku.
SlendVeny said:
The "Latent Potential" thing is literally stated, he was one of the 4 most feared people in Soul Society because of it.
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Reactive Evolution is passive sometimes. Ichigo erase Aizen. Aizen regenerates and evolve surpassing Ichigo. Just think of Aizen as Doomsday

Latent Potential is active. It sometimes needs to be tapped into with Training.
 
Tipper17 said:
When was it stated Aizen can still evolve like he did back then
All we know he got stronger than before but don't recall he can just evolve
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He never lost the ability. He's still the master of the Hogyoku which has the power to evolve him. Him getting stronger by doing nothing only proves that point that he retains the power.
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
He does though?

It's used to further prove FB Ichigo is above all the Post TS Captains ( Bar Yama without his rage amp )

As it was confirmed it was unbreakable

Moon level with Bankai (Ichigo's Bankai destroys a pocket dimension that not even a variety of Captains mounting an all out assault could destroy[47], this includes Zaraki's Ryoudan, and he killed Bankai Ginjo



tbf while I already scale him above them all, I don't know if we should take the statement seriously though ngl as Yukio much like all the Fullbringers is pretty arrogant and Rukia was just taking his statement as face value...there could be something I am not remembering though so if anyone will correct me please do so
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Why are we taking a statement from Rukia so seriously to scale them?
 
Ichigo doesn’t get 5-C from busting out of Yukio’s dimension. He gets 5-C from scaling above other 5-C characters. There’s no calc for breaking Yukio’s dimension. Theres also the Quilge scaling with the Blut amps.

Here’s Ichigo full justification:
(Ichigo's Bankai destroys a pocket dimension that not even a variety of Captains mounting an all out assault could destroy[47], this includes Zaraki's Ryoudan, and he killed Bankai Ginjo[48][49]. Ichigo consistently presses[50] Post-Ayon absorbed Vollständig Quilge[51], and Squad 12 believes Ichigo can turn the tides of the first invasion[52][Statistics Values 3])
 
Just a question. On Nnoritra's profile, he has Master Swordsman with the justificafion of scaling above other master swordsmen like Ulquiorra and Starrk, but Starrk only has Expert Swordsman. Is there some form of inconsistency or is it supposed to be that way?
 
KingogKings777 said:
Why are we taking a statement from Rukia so seriously to scale them?
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I think that part of Ichigo's AP justification is leftover from when he scaled to the SAFWY dangai splitting calc before it got nuked, and that's why extra emphasis is placed on him scaling above Kenpachi's ryoudan. His scaling doesn't rely on that as much anymore, though it's not technically incorrect.
 
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