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zeno vs yhwach??
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
- Thread starter Zoro21043
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If Yhwach had similar stats to Zeno he is hax stomping that football headed little mf into oblivion
Bastolan27
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Wouldn't Hado #90 Counter infinity?
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Subs: mostly island+, MHS
SS: mostly island+ upto multi continental, subrel+ to FTL
Arrancer: country+ to multicontinental, rel+ to FTL
SAFWY: Multicontinental to Planet, rel+ to FTL+
Fullbring: as SAFWY
TYBW: multicontinental mostly, low multiversal for Squad zero, multiversal+ to complex multiversal for god tiers
Speed ranging from LS mid tiers to MFTL squad zero with infinite/immeasurable attak speed via reatsu attack, got tiers mftl+ combat speed with infinite/immeasurable attack speed but have much greater range
SS: mostly island+ upto multi continental, subrel+ to FTL
Arrancer: country+ to multicontinental, rel+ to FTL
SAFWY: Multicontinental to Planet, rel+ to FTL+
Fullbring: as SAFWY
TYBW: multicontinental mostly, low multiversal for Squad zero, multiversal+ to complex multiversal for god tiers
Speed ranging from LS mid tiers to MFTL squad zero with infinite/immeasurable attak speed via reatsu attack, got tiers mftl+ combat speed with infinite/immeasurable attack speed but have much greater range
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Space manip?
Arcker123
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How does he use space manip offensively?
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Are we not talking about Black Coffin?
ReaperAndBlues
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Zeno has no real way to kill Yhwach, but Yhwach has no way to hurt Zeno, so it would prob be an incon.
ReaperAndBlues
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Aizen craps on Gojo. If we don't include the fact that Infinity probably can't filter out Reiatsu Crush, Aizen's Kurotsugi warps space so it would bypass infinity. That and also KS would put Gojo out of commission if he takes his blindfold off, hell he could leave it on and his Six Eyes would pick up on it
Arcker123
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Yes. How is it used offensively in a way that's relevant here?
ReaperAndBlues
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Here's a good one though, Aizen vs DBS Goku
ReaperAndBlues
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It warps space and deconstructs anything inside on an atomic level. Gojo is getting his Infinity warped and is gonna get peeled like a potato
Arcker123
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It warping space doesn't harm anyone.
Gojo's infinity can block gravitational abilities like the black hoke. It's going to defend against the atomization as it also is gravity based.
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Pretty sure gojo can see through the blindfold so is should get him
Saibotsan
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Sin
Infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, kurohitsugi deconstructs it's target on an atomic level, could argue it deconstructs infinity
Saibotsan
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And gojo is not gonna fight a character with equal stats with blindfolds on, he needs limitless
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those he also assume that gojo has reiatsu? Because he gojo attacks Aizen would think gojo as a way to visualize him or know it’s area
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Also any light based kido ability should by pass infinity
Arcker123
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Through Gravity. Which Infinity can block
Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.
Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.
Uhhhhhhh. No?
Why would you think that?
I don't even know what this is supposed to communicate.
Saibotsan
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Maybe? Last I checked ittokasu straight up tears holes in space time and that's kido that's not nearly as powerful as Yamamoto's
An ittokasu from aizen will rip a hole in infinity and gojo hinself
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I mean wouldn’t Aizen be suspicious if he sees gojo moving like a person that isn’t blind when he ass a blindfold and no reiatsu
Also infinity only stops things to an atomic lvl light is a sub atomic particle which means it should bypass infinity
ReaperAndBlues
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Would the Hogyoku not evolve to cover that? Also the Fate and RW hax? Nvm I read he doesn't have that
Can't he also use Kyokko? That actually cuts through space
Infinity stops things at an atomic level, subatomic particles like light would slip right by, unless you're saying Gojo can block out light subconciously
Arcker123
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It can do that and still not be able to spatially manip offensively.
He wouldn't then think it works. He'd just think he has some good senses or whatever.
They're not literal Light one to one. Light kido still explode, have mass.
Pog
Not offensively. Kyokko isn't an offensive spell.
They're not literally Light in such a manner. They explode, have mass, etc.
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Gojo’s blindfold explicitly doesn’t block his sight. Also when he fights strong opponents he takes it off anyway.
Arcker123
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Why would he think Aizen is strong? Equal stats doesn't mean he knows that.
It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, Aizen still would think he's blind and just not bother.
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He took his blindfold off against characters weaker than himself and anytime he fought an opponent of comparable strength he takes the blindfold off. The precedence is there and thus the likelihood.
Aizen is intelligent enough to deduce his vision works, and is certainly intelligent enough to test that hypothesis with KS, ya know, super genius and all.
Arcker123
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Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.
Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.
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no one caresAre you saying he wouldn’t be able to sense Aizen’s “power level”? Cuz the 6 eyes explicitly would let him do that.
Tosen is a poor example, Aizen isn’t trying to recruit Gojo to his cause in this scenario. Also, I don’t need an explicit feat, we can reason things using logic.
ReaperAndBlues
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Aizen pins everyone in the verse down with 3-C RC and Universal range ggs
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But he knows tosen is blind he has seen him without is visor
Arcker123
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Duck Duck Goose
Can you show why Reiryoku and Six Eyes are equalizable in such a manner?
The point is simply that Aizen never tested his hypothesis on Tosen, and thus we have no reason to think he'd do that here.
I brought up the tosen example to show how there's countervailing evidence against your position. Aizen didn't do what you're proposing he'd do here.
Aura that travels a physical finite distance = infinity negs
When he first met him in CFYOW, he didn't attempt to put him under Kyoka, despite trying that on people he wants to recruit.
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I kinda wish Aizen's Hogyoku evolutions went even deeper into the abstract and body horror style of transformations ngl.
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