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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Subs: mostly island+, MHS
SS: mostly island+ upto multi continental, subrel+ to FTL
Arrancer: country+ to multicontinental, rel+ to FTL
SAFWY: Multicontinental to Planet, rel+ to FTL+
Fullbring: as SAFWY
TYBW: multicontinental mostly, low multiversal for Squad zero, multiversal+ to complex multiversal for god tiers
Speed ranging from LS mid tiers to MFTL squad zero with infinite/immeasurable attak speed via reatsu attack, got tiers mftl+ combat speed with infinite/immeasurable attack speed but have much greater range
 
Base Aizen without Hogyoku vs Gojo = Stats.

Who yall got.
Aizen craps on Gojo. If we don't include the fact that Infinity probably can't filter out Reiatsu Crush, Aizen's Kurotsugi warps space so it would bypass infinity. That and also KS would put Gojo out of commission if he takes his blindfold off, hell he could leave it on and his Six Eyes would pick up on it
 
It warps space and deconstructs anything inside on an atomic level. Gojo is getting his Infinity warped and is gonna get peeled like a potato
It warping space doesn't harm anyone.

Gojo's infinity can block gravitational abilities like the black hoke. It's going to defend against the atomization as it also is gravity based.
 
Sin
It warping space doesn't harm anyone.

Gojo's infinity can block gravitational abilities like the black hoke. It's going to defend against the atomization as it also is gravity based.
Infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, kurohitsugi deconstructs it's target on an atomic level, could argue it deconstructs infinity
 
Maybe Itto Kaso would work better than Kurohitsugi if you think Aizen’s got that as well, and if the stuff about it ripping holes in space time on Yama’s profile is accurate. The heat from it might be enough too, depending on how infinity would interact with that.
 
Sin

Infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, kurohitsugi deconstructs it's target on an atomic level, could argue it deconstructs infinity
Through Gravity. Which Infinity can block
And gojo is not gonna fight a character with equal stats with blindfolds on, he needs limitless
Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.
Maybe Itto Kaso would work better than Kurohitsugi if you think Aizen’s got that as well, and if the stuff about it ripping holes in space time on Yama’s profile is accurate. The heat from it might be enough too, depending on how infinity would interact with that.
Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.
Also any light based kido ability should by pass infinity
Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?
those he also assume that gojo has reiatsu? Because he gojo attacks Aizen would think gojo as a way to visualize him or know it’s area
I don't even know what this is supposed to communicate.
 
Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.
Maybe? Last I checked ittokasu straight up tears holes in space time and that's kido that's not nearly as powerful as Yamamoto's

An ittokasu from aizen will rip a hole in infinity and gojo hinself
 
Through Gravity. Which Infinity can block

Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.

Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.

Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?

I don't even know what this is supposed to communicate.
I mean wouldn’t Aizen be suspicious if he sees gojo moving like a person that isn’t blind when he ass a blindfold and no reiatsu


Also infinity only stops things to an atomic lvl light is a sub atomic particle which means it should bypass infinity
 
Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.
Would the Hogyoku not evolve to cover that? Also the Fate and RW hax? Nvm I read he doesn't have that
Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.
Can't he also use Kyokko? That actually cuts through space
Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?
Infinity stops things at an atomic level, subatomic particles like light would slip right by, unless you're saying Gojo can block out light subconciously
 
Maybe? Last I checked ittokasu straight up tears holes in space time and that's kido that's not nearly as powerful as Yamamoto's

An ittokasu from aizen will rip a hole in infinity and gojo hinself
It can do that and still not be able to spatially manip offensively.
I mean wouldn’t Aizen be suspicious if he sees gojo moving like a person that isn’t blind when he ass a blindfold and no reiatsu


Also infinity only stops things to an atomic lvl light is a sub atomic particle which means it should bypass infinity
He wouldn't then think it works. He'd just think he has some good senses or whatever.

They're not literal Light one to one. Light kido still explode, have mass.
Would the Hogyoku not evolve to cover that? Also the Fate and RW hax? Nvm I read he doesn't have that
Pog
Can't he also use Kyokko? That actually cuts through space
Not offensively. Kyokko isn't an offensive spell.
Infinity stops things at an atomic level, subatomic particles like light would slip right by, unless you're saying Gojo can block out light subconciously
They're not literally Light in such a manner. They explode, have mass, etc.
 
Gojo’s blindfold explicitly doesn’t block his sight. Also when he fights strong opponents he takes it off anyway.
Why would he think Aizen is strong? Equal stats doesn't mean he knows that.

It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, Aizen still would think he's blind and just not bother.
 
Why would he think Aizen is strong? Equal stats doesn't mean he knows that.

It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, Aizen still would think he's blind and just not bother.
He took his blindfold off against characters weaker than himself and anytime he fought an opponent of comparable strength he takes the blindfold off. The precedence is there and thus the likelihood.

Aizen is intelligent enough to deduce his vision works, and is certainly intelligent enough to test that hypothesis with KS, ya know, super genius and all.
 
He took his blindfold off against characters weaker than himself and anytime he fought an opponent of comparable strength he takes the blindfold off. The precedence is there and thus the likelihood.

Aizen is intelligent enough to deduce his vision works, and is certainly intelligent enough to test that hypothesis with KS, ya know, super genius and all.
Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.

Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.
 
Yk what. Full Power EOS Aizen vs Gojo unequal stats. I'll argue for Gojo.
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Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.

Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.
Are you saying he wouldn’t be able to sense Aizen’s “power level”? Cuz the 6 eyes explicitly would let him do that.

Tosen is a poor example, Aizen isn’t trying to recruit Gojo to his cause in this scenario. Also, I don’t need an explicit feat, we can reason things using logic.
 
🤓 no one cares
Duck Duck Goose
Are you saying he wouldn’t be able to sense Aizen’s “power level”? Cuz the 6 eyes explicitly would let him do that.
Can you show why Reiryoku and Six Eyes are equalizable in such a manner?
Tosen is a poor example, Aizen isn’t trying to recruit Gojo to his cause in this scenario.
The point is simply that Aizen never tested his hypothesis on Tosen, and thus we have no reason to think he'd do that here.
Also, I don’t need an explicit feat, we can reason things using logic.
I brought up the tosen example to show how there's countervailing evidence against your position. Aizen didn't do what you're proposing he'd do here.
Aizen pins everyone in the verse down with 3-C RC and Universal range ggs
Aura that travels a physical finite distance = infinity negs
But he knows tosen is blind he has seen him without is visor
When he first met him in CFYOW, he didn't attempt to put him under Kyoka, despite trying that on people he wants to recruit.
 
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