BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arcker123]

Aizen has no reason to attempt it. He's just gonna assume that he's blind like Tosen.

 

[Saibotsan]

Sin

It warping space doesn't harm anyone.

Gojo's infinity can block gravitational abilities like the black hoke. It's going to defend against the atomization as it also is gravity based.

Infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, kurohitsugi deconstructs it's target on an atomic level, could argue it deconstructs infinity

 

[Saibotsan]

Aizen has no reason to attempt it. He's just gonna assume that he's blind like Tosen.

And gojo is not gonna fight a character with equal stats with blindfolds on, he needs limitless

 

[TheLav69]

Maybe Itto Kaso would work better than Kurohitsugi if you think Aizen’s got that as well, and if the stuff about it ripping holes in space time on Yama’s profile is accurate. The heat from it might be enough too, depending on how infinity would interact with that.

 

[Westcoast5005]

those he also assume that gojo has reiatsu? Because he gojo attacks Aizen would think gojo as a way to visualize him or know it’s area

 

[Westcoast5005]

Also any light based kido ability should by pass infinity

 

[Arcker123]

Sin

Infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, kurohitsugi deconstructs it's target on an atomic level, could argue it deconstructs infinity

Through Gravity. Which Infinity can block

And gojo is not gonna fight a character with equal stats with blindfolds on, he needs limitless

Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.

Maybe Itto Kaso would work better than Kurohitsugi if you think Aizen’s got that as well, and if the stuff about it ripping holes in space time on Yama’s profile is accurate. The heat from it might be enough too, depending on how infinity would interact with that.

Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.

Also any light based kido ability should by pass infinity

Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?

those he also assume that gojo has reiatsu? Because he gojo attacks Aizen would think gojo as a way to visualize him or know it’s area

I don't even know what this is supposed to communicate.

 

[Saibotsan]

Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.

Maybe? Last I checked ittokasu straight up tears holes in space time and that's kido that's not nearly as powerful as Yamamoto's

An ittokasu from aizen will rip a hole in infinity and gojo hinself

 

[Westcoast5005]

Through Gravity. Which Infinity can block

Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.

Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.

Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?

I don't even know what this is supposed to communicate.

I mean wouldn’t Aizen be suspicious if he sees gojo moving like a person that isn’t blind when he ass a blindfold and no reiatsu


Also infinity only stops things to an atomic lvl light is a sub atomic particle which means it should bypass infinity

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Even if Aizen does get a Kyoka off, I don't see why he can get past infinity.

Would the Hogyoku not evolve to cover that? Also the Fate and RW hax? Nvm I read he doesn't have that

Same thing as Kurohitsugi. It can maybe affect space, but you'd need to prove he can directly apply that offensively.

Can't he also use Kyokko? That actually cuts through space

Uhhhhhhh. No?

Why would you think that?

Infinity stops things at an atomic level, subatomic particles like light would slip right by, unless you're saying Gojo can block out light subconciously

 

[Arcker123]

Maybe? Last I checked ittokasu straight up tears holes in space time and that's kido that's not nearly as powerful as Yamamoto's

An ittokasu from aizen will rip a hole in infinity and gojo hinself

It can do that and still not be able to spatially manip offensively.

I mean wouldn’t Aizen be suspicious if he sees gojo moving like a person that isn’t blind when he ass a blindfold and no reiatsu


Also infinity only stops things to an atomic lvl light is a sub atomic particle which means it should bypass infinity

He wouldn't then think it works. He'd just think he has some good senses or whatever.

They're not literal Light one to one. Light kido still explode, have mass.

Would the Hogyoku not evolve to cover that? Also the Fate and RW hax? Nvm I read he doesn't have that

Pog

Can't he also use Kyokko? That actually cuts through space

Not offensively. Kyokko isn't an offensive spell.

Infinity stops things at an atomic level, subatomic particles like light would slip right by, unless you're saying Gojo can block out light subconciously

They're not literally Light in such a manner. They explode, have mass, etc.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Blindfold

Gojo’s blindfold explicitly doesn’t block his sight. Also when he fights strong opponents he takes it off anyway.

 

[Arcker123]

Gojo’s blindfold explicitly doesn’t block his sight. Also when he fights strong opponents he takes it off anyway.

Why would he think Aizen is strong? Equal stats doesn't mean he knows that.

It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, Aizen still would think he's blind and just not bother.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why would he think Aizen is strong? Equal stats doesn't mean he knows that.

It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't, Aizen still would think he's blind and just not bother.

He took his blindfold off against characters weaker than himself and anytime he fought an opponent of comparable strength he takes the blindfold off. The precedence is there and thus the likelihood.

Aizen is intelligent enough to deduce his vision works, and is certainly intelligent enough to test that hypothesis with KS, ya know, super genius and all.

 

[Arcker123]

Yk what. Full Power EOS Aizen vs Gojo unequal stats. I'll argue for Gojo.

 

[Arcker123]

He took his blindfold off against characters weaker than himself and anytime he fought an opponent of comparable strength he takes the blindfold off. The precedence is there and thus the likelihood.

Aizen is intelligent enough to deduce his vision works, and is certainly intelligent enough to test that hypothesis with KS, ya know, super genius and all.

Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.

Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yk what. Full Power EOS Aizen vs Gojo unequal stats. I'll argue for Gojo.

no one cares

Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.

Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.

Are you saying he wouldn’t be able to sense Aizen’s “power level”? Cuz the 6 eyes explicitly would let him do that.

Tosen is a poor example, Aizen isn’t trying to recruit Gojo to his cause in this scenario. Also, I don’t need an explicit feat, we can reason things using logic.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Yk what. Full Power EOS Aizen vs Gojo unequal stats. I'll argue for Gojo.

Aizen pins everyone in the verse down with 3-C RC and Universal range ggs

 

[Westcoast5005]

Yeah but he has no reason to make any such assumptions about Aizen's power.

Aizen is smart but you'd need a feat to suggest that. He never tested Tosen for example.

But he knows tosen is blind he has seen him without is visor

 

[Arcker123]

no one cares

Duck Duck Goose

Are you saying he wouldn’t be able to sense Aizen’s “power level”? Cuz the 6 eyes explicitly would let him do that.

Can you show why Reiryoku and Six Eyes are equalizable in such a manner?

Tosen is a poor example, Aizen isn’t trying to recruit Gojo to his cause in this scenario.

The point is simply that Aizen never tested his hypothesis on Tosen, and thus we have no reason to think he'd do that here.

Also, I don’t need an explicit feat, we can reason things using logic.

I brought up the tosen example to show how there's countervailing evidence against your position. Aizen didn't do what you're proposing he'd do here.

Aizen pins everyone in the verse down with 3-C RC and Universal range ggs

Aura that travels a physical finite distance = infinity negs

But he knows tosen is blind he has seen him without is visor

When he first met him in CFYOW, he didn't attempt to put him under Kyoka, despite trying that on people he wants to recruit.

 

[Crobatman44]

I kinda wish Aizen's Hogyoku evolutions went even deeper into the abstract and body horror style of transformations ngl.

 

[AppleLord]

Zeno has no real way to kill Yhwach, but Yhwach has no way to hurt Zeno, so it would prob be an incon.

Zeno is a glasscanon by feats

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Zeno is a glasscanon by feats

True, but he is also Tier 1 while Yhwach is at best Tier 2

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Now what about Kenpachi vs Gojo equal stats?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It warping space doesn't harm anyone.

Gojo's infinity can block gravitational abilities like the black hoke. It's going to defend against the atomization as it also is gravity based.

Gojo's infinity doesn't have feats or statements to block black hole. His profile mistakenly listed that. It's getting removed incase you are referring what is in the profile

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

"You dropped your wallet"

 

[AppleLord]

True, but he is also Tier 1 while Yhwach is at best Tier 2

and?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

and?

Do you know what happens when a lower dimensional character touches a higher dimensional character?

 

[Naeblis495]

Zeno is a higher dimensional characther in terms of existence ? When and how ?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Zeno is a higher dimensional characther in terms of existence ? When and how ?

When DB got upgraded to Low 1-C

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Do you know what happens when a lower dimensional character touches a higher dimensional character?

Zeno is not Higher dimensional

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

When DB got upgraded to Low 1-C

That only gave him Tier 1 AP, not higher dimensional existence

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

That only gave him Tier 1 AP, not higher dimensional existence

He has Low 1-C dura

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

The point is Yhwach can't do shit because he only has at best 4D AP vs 5D dura, at best he could incon because no one in the DB verse can counter The Almighty aside from SDBH

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

He has Low 1-C dura

yea, still not higher dimensional...

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

The point is Yhwach can't do shit because he only has at best 4D AP vs 5D dura, at best he could incon because no one in the DB verse can counter The Almighty aside from SDBH

That is a better argument, however YH does have stuff that ignore durability.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

That is a better argument, however YH does have stuff that ignore durability.

Would dura neg work on a character with higher dimensional durability coming from someone with lower dimensional AP?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Anyways that fight aside, me and KillerNerd are pretty close to finishing our project for upgrading Ichigo's intelligence. Maybe we could get away with skillslopping Ichigo once we're done.

 

[Crobatman44]

Would dura neg work on a character with higher dimensional durability coming from someone with lower dimensional AP?

Deathdealing moment.