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I might be forgetting this but is it ever explained why ichigo’s zanpakto is always in its shikai form?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Guacamolefletcher
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Certain mods watching the BLEACH supporters call victory early, planning a verse-wide downgrade in the background (tier 7 TYBW captains):
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Damage getting the city block Seireitei meta ready to drop.
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I wouldn't really put Gremmy's feat any higher than 3-C
Apart from the kanji being Uchu, not enough to say it's the size of the observable universe
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I would willingly back a hill level god tiers downgrade.
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The argument is semantical a bit, but definitionally, outer space simply refers to the universe outside earth's atmosphere, aka it's the universe minus earth, and earth is such a tiny portion of the universe, it's practically just the universe.
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Same but for Naruto.
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Gremmy should definitely scale to his creation feat imo, unless something in cours 3 and 4 gives us new stuff that would make it inconsistent.
Still, cour 2 did three things that greatly helped the case for him scaling to it:
1. The removal of the galaxy from Gremmy's feat, making it less of an outlier
2. Senjumaru's feat, making it even harder to argue as an outlier since we now have someone who isn't a god tier doing 4-A (or higher) shit on screen
3. The removal of everyone reacting to the meteor as if it were a threat
It's kinda nuts that we got all of these things at the same time tbh, it makes me wonder if it's being done on purpose.
Still, cour 2 did three things that greatly helped the case for him scaling to it:
1. The removal of the galaxy from Gremmy's feat, making it less of an outlier
2. Senjumaru's feat, making it even harder to argue as an outlier since we now have someone who isn't a god tier doing 4-A (or higher) shit on screen
3. The removal of everyone reacting to the meteor as if it were a threat
It's kinda nuts that we got all of these things at the same time tbh, it makes me wonder if it's being done on purpose.
Non-god tiers being in tier 2 is an idea I'll have to warm up to over time ngl, even though I know it's a valid way to interpret things. Shit just looks weird to me
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I think should be at least 3B because we can see a galaxy in the space then kenpachi in another one
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Wasn't the galaxy removed in the anime
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Yeah I forget
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Apparently Cour 2 had many production issues and the art was inconsistent. I will be waiting for the Blu Ray to release next month to see how they visually changed anything with it.
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Toshiro and FBB Ichigo come to mind
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The physiology revision has already been applied to Yhwach's profile. Next time there's a vs battle between Soul King Key Yhwach and a random crossverse opponent, there's a 90% chance it will result in a win via Corruption Type 2.
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no bigger fraud than jugram lets be honest
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Holy shit bro.
You’ve been here for how long and you can’t even be bothered to check up the profile which answers your question.
Smfh.
You’ve been here for how long and you can’t even be bothered to check up the profile which answers your question.
Smfh.
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With how big grimmjowl and the one eyed guys egos are you gotta wonder why they would ever sign up to be espda and work under Aizen
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yes. Reio tiers ap is literal dimension above 2C. But don't wanna discuss this before cosmology vlog is made.
bankai yamamoto > any sternritter , I don't think this should apply to post auswahlen characters. I won't be surprised if they pull of higher ap feats.
Dangai, garganta are hyperdimensions. These can not be used for speed calc, or portion of them can not be measured by generic speed, time calc. I think it would be best to put it in hax category. We also have grimjow distorting space with roar or clash I forgot
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No. That is why are you here for.
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No, people aren't here to tell you stuff you can easily see, AppleNo. That is why are you here for.
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I agree actually. This is like me asking someone a question and they say ask google. Like... I'm not about to do all that. If nobody knows then I'll check google f^ck I look like checking a wall of texts on a profileNo. That is why are you here for.
i ain't doing all that if someone can just tell me
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ctrl fI agree actually. This is like me asking someone a question and they say ask google. Like... I'm not about to do all that. If nobody knows then I'll check google f^ck I look like checking a wall of texts on a profile
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Would yall say this is a solid top 10 list of Bleach's strongest characters overall?
1. Prime Reio
2. Soul King Yhwach
3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )
4. Muken Aizen
5. CFYOW Kenpachi
6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )
7. Full Power Hikone
8. The Cleaner
9. Ichibei
10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )
*Not counting Orihime since she is only defense and reaction time by EOS and no AP showings
1. Prime Reio
2. Soul King Yhwach
3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )
4. Muken Aizen
5. CFYOW Kenpachi
6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )
7. Full Power Hikone
8. The Cleaner
9. Ichibei
10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )
*Not counting Orihime since she is only defense and reaction time by EOS and no AP showings
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He'll winNo
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No
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Huh,did not notice Bastolan did not update Ginjo's age while doing his stuff lol.
(Like 99% certain there's a klub outside question where Kubo gives a direct answer)
(Like 99% certain there's a klub outside question where Kubo gives a direct answer)
Guacamolefletcher
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L List. Full power Ichigo > Yhwach in AP! Also CFYOW Kenpachi > Muken Aizen and Ginjo > Ichibei and the cleaner at his peak.
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PSK, SK Yhwach, True Bankai and above Ichigo, Muken Aizen, emotion amped Bankai Ginjo, Res Hikone, SK fragment absorbed Iko, and CFYOW Zaraki are all kinda in similar tiers. I think an inoffensive list would go sumn like this for AP (only gonna count the characters strongest):
1. PSK (transcended everything)
2. True Zangetsu Ichigo (one shot Yhwach, his peak form)
3. Emotion amped Bankai Ginjo (his Getsuga = Ichigo’s Getsuga which killed Yhwach)
4. SK Yhwach (doesn’t really need explanation, contested TB Ichigo)
5. CFYOW Shikai/Bankai Zaraki (one shot Iko)
6. SK fragment absorbed Ikomikidomoe (stronger than Hikone)
7. Res Hikone (as strong if not stronger than Aizen)
8. Muken Aizen (poster boy for transcendent characters, briefly held his own against Yhwach)
9. Unsealed Ichibe (he’s just going to be stronger than Shutara)
10. Unsealed Squad 0 (shook the universe, surpassed the entire Gotei 13, anime glorped them up)
I think you could put amped Ginjo below Yhwach if you think Yhwach only got injured because he was “off guard” albeit I don’t exactly believe that myself, and I think you can argue that SK Yhwach = PSK, and as such Ichigo would be the strongest.
1. PSK (transcended everything)
2. True Zangetsu Ichigo (one shot Yhwach, his peak form)
3. Emotion amped Bankai Ginjo (his Getsuga = Ichigo’s Getsuga which killed Yhwach)
4. SK Yhwach (doesn’t really need explanation, contested TB Ichigo)
5. CFYOW Shikai/Bankai Zaraki (one shot Iko)
6. SK fragment absorbed Ikomikidomoe (stronger than Hikone)
7. Res Hikone (as strong if not stronger than Aizen)
8. Muken Aizen (poster boy for transcendent characters, briefly held his own against Yhwach)
9. Unsealed Ichibe (he’s just going to be stronger than Shutara)
10. Unsealed Squad 0 (shook the universe, surpassed the entire Gotei 13, anime glorped them up)
I think you could put amped Ginjo below Yhwach if you think Yhwach only got injured because he was “off guard” albeit I don’t exactly believe that myself, and I think you can argue that SK Yhwach = PSK, and as such Ichigo would be the strongest.
