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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I think a fine mid end scale for Bleach top to god tiers would go sumn like this:

8 Gremmy = 4-A to 3-A (outer space creation feat) < Bankai Yama = 3-A to Low 2-C overtime (destroying SS overtime, treat SS as a universe) < Squad 0 Bankai = 2-C (shook multiple universes) < WSK (sustains the entire cosmology)

Given what the anime did for Shutara, I wouldn’t really refute this general scaling take. And who knows perhaps the last 2 cours will make this far more consistent.

I wouldn't really put Gremmy's feat any higher than 3-C

Apart from the kanji being Uchu, not enough to say it's the size of the observable universe
 
I wouldn't really put Gremmy's feat any higher than 3-C

Apart from the kanji being Uchu, not enough to say it's the size of the observable universe
The argument is semantical a bit, but definitionally, outer space simply refers to the universe outside earth's atmosphere, aka it's the universe minus earth, and earth is such a tiny portion of the universe, it's practically just the universe.
 
Gremmy should definitely scale to his creation feat imo, unless something in cours 3 and 4 gives us new stuff that would make it inconsistent.

Still, cour 2 did three things that greatly helped the case for him scaling to it:
1. The removal of the galaxy from Gremmy's feat, making it less of an outlier
2. Senjumaru's feat, making it even harder to argue as an outlier since we now have someone who isn't a god tier doing 4-A (or higher) shit on screen
3. The removal of everyone reacting to the meteor as if it were a threat

It's kinda nuts that we got all of these things at the same time tbh, it makes me wonder if it's being done on purpose.

8 Gremmy = 4-A to 3-A (outer space creation feat) < Bankai Yama = 3-A to Low 2-C overtime (destroying SS overtime, treat SS as a universe) < Squad 0 Bankai = 2-C (shook multiple universes) < WSK (sustains the entire cosmology)
Non-god tiers being in tier 2 is an idea I'll have to warm up to over time ngl, even though I know it's a valid way to interpret things. Shit just looks weird to me 😭
 
The physiology revision has already been applied to Yhwach's profile. Next time there's a vs battle between Soul King Key Yhwach and a random crossverse opponent, there's a 90% chance it will result in a win via Corruption Type 2.
 
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Does Yammy have in his profile resistance to his union of matter not getting rejected from existence from Orihime?
 
I think a fine mid end scale for Bleach top to god tiers would go sumn like this:

8 Gremmy = 4-A to 3-A (outer space creation feat) < Bankai Yama = 3-A to Low 2-C overtime (destroying SS overtime, treat SS as a universe) < Squad 0 Bankai = 2-C (shook multiple universes) < WSK (sustains the entire cosmology)
yes. Reio tiers ap is literal dimension above 2C. But don't wanna discuss this before cosmology vlog is made.
Given what the anime did for Shutara, I wouldn’t really refute this general scaling take. And who knows perhaps the last 2 cours will make this far more consistent.
bankai yamamoto > any sternritter , I don't think this should apply to post auswahlen characters. I won't be surprised if they pull of higher ap feats.
Now I love you even more. I think tier 2 Senju feat is fine. Via the novels, we have a precedent for something like this, as when the Garganta shook, it distorted space-time if I'm not mistaken. We can avoid the wanking of the novel Garganta feat by pointing out that the size of the portion of the Garganta that shook is unknown, disqualifying it for Tier 2. However, Senju shook three universes, providing a quantifiable size, and it would fall under Tier 2.
Dangai, garganta are hyperdimensions. These can not be used for speed calc, or portion of them can not be measured by generic speed, time calc. I think it would be best to put it in hax category. We also have grimjow distorting space with roar or clash I forgot
 
No. That is why are you here for. 😂
I agree actually. This is like me asking someone a question and they say ask google. Like... I'm not about to do all that. If nobody knows then I'll check google f^ck I look like checking a wall of texts on a profile 🤣 i ain't doing all that if someone can just tell me
 
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Would yall say this is a solid top 10 list of Bleach's strongest characters overall?

1. Prime Reio

2. Soul King Yhwach

3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )

4. Muken Aizen

5. CFYOW Kenpachi

6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )

7. Full Power Hikone

8. The Cleaner

9. Ichibei

10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )

*Not counting Orihime since she is only defense and reaction time by EOS and no AP showings
 
Would yall say this is a solid top 10 list of Bleach's strongest characters overall?

1. Prime Reio

2. Soul King Yhwach

3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )

4. Muken Aizen

5. CFYOW Kenpachi

6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )

7. Full Power Hikone

8. The Cleaner

9. Ichibei

10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )
No
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Would yall say this is a solid top 10 list of Bleach's strongest characters overall?

1. Prime Reio

2. Soul King Yhwach

3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )

4. Muken Aizen

5. CFYOW Kenpachi

6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )

7. Full Power Hikone

8. The Cleaner

9. Ichibei

10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )

*Not counting Orihime since she is only defense and reaction time by EOS and no AP showings
L List. Full power Ichigo > Yhwach in AP! Also CFYOW Kenpachi > Muken Aizen and Ginjo > Ichibei and the cleaner at his peak.
 
Would yall say this is a solid top 10 list of Bleach's strongest characters overall?

1. Prime Reio

2. Soul King Yhwach

3. True Power Ichigo ( Also includes Zangetsu spirits because I know someone will ask )

4. Muken Aizen

5. CFYOW Kenpachi

6. Post SK Fragment Absorbed Ikimikidomoe ( pardon spelling if wrong )

7. Full Power Hikone

8. The Cleaner

9. Ichibei

10. Bankai Shutura ( Since she is the only S0 member who has gone all out so far I don't count the others )

*Not counting Orihime since she is only defense and reaction time by EOS and no AP showings
1.reio
2.ichigo
3.yhwach
4.Aizen
5.Gerard
6.Kenpachi
7. Gremmy
8. Ichibei
9. S0
 
PSK, SK Yhwach, True Bankai and above Ichigo, Muken Aizen, emotion amped Bankai Ginjo, Res Hikone, SK fragment absorbed Iko, and CFYOW Zaraki are all kinda in similar tiers. I think an inoffensive list would go sumn like this for AP (only gonna count the characters strongest):
1. PSK (transcended everything)
2. True Zangetsu Ichigo (one shot Yhwach, his peak form)
3. Emotion amped Bankai Ginjo (his Getsuga = Ichigo’s Getsuga which killed Yhwach)
4. SK Yhwach (doesn’t really need explanation, contested TB Ichigo)
5. CFYOW Shikai/Bankai Zaraki (one shot Iko)
6. SK fragment absorbed Ikomikidomoe (stronger than Hikone)
7. Res Hikone (as strong if not stronger than Aizen)
8. Muken Aizen (poster boy for transcendent characters, briefly held his own against Yhwach)
9. Unsealed Ichibe (he’s just going to be stronger than Shutara)
10. Unsealed Squad 0 (shook the universe, surpassed the entire Gotei 13, anime glorped them up)

I think you could put amped Ginjo below Yhwach if you think Yhwach only got injured because he was “off guard” albeit I don’t exactly believe that myself, and I think you can argue that SK Yhwach = PSK, and as such Ichigo would be the strongest.
 
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