Guacamolefletcher
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Do you not understand that an equivalent increase for a 2x size increase could just be 1.5 via a proportion?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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A 1.5× power increase isn't proportional to a 2× size increase
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Let's say Gerard 5 feet tall and his strength is at a 10. If Gerard gets 2× bigger and is now 10 feet tall his strength will now be at 20 since their correlated,equal or connected to one another. Via Occam's razor you making extra unnecessary assumptions.
Guacamolefletcher
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Yeah it can be, if the proportion is 1.5:2
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Proportional just means a constant ratio.
A ratio can be 2:1 and still be Proportional as long as it's going up at the same constant rate of 2:1
Like I said gerards base Size starts at a 5 and his power at a 10.
So the ratio is 5:10 if his size doubles so does his strength since they are Proportional. Making his size/strength ratio 10:20.
It doesn't have to be a 1:1 ratio. As long as their is a constant corresponding ratio.
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Right but this still proves my point if gerards power started at a 1 and his size at a 2. Then his size goes up by 5× now his size is at a 10 now because his size went up 5× so does his power making it a 5 since they are Proportional. So I can still say since gerard got 30× bigger he also got 30× stronger
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@Arc, is there anything that involves people later in TYBW that affects any current speed scaling? The only other feats are Yhwach’s beam down to SS and Mimihagi’s fear of shooting up to SS. What’s stopping you from making a revision about characters that don’t affect that?
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I also think justification on zaraki's profile should be edited. It's better to replace it with the scan mentioning the training was meant for zaraki to surpass unohana. Because zaraki managed to beat up the unohana who was wasting her reiryoku on reviving zaraki hundreds, thousands times.
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Make the thread then.
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Y’all think that my life is solely dedicated to Bleach
like “yes masta I’ll get right to slavin away as you ordered”.I’m going to reread Bleach here soon tho, to work on several things like Substitute Shinigami scaling, speed scaling, and hax scaling.
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no,your life is dedicated to Mushibugyo,abandon Bleach.Y’all think that my life is solely dedicated to Bleach
I’m going to reread Bleach here soon tho, to work on several things like Substitute Shinigami scaling, speed scaling, and hax scaling.
(There's a reason i haven't been pushing much in terms of askimg for crts and stuff they will arrive when they arrive,and that's fine with me)
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If is not, it should be. Or I will take your place.Y’all think that my life is solely dedicated to Bleach
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If you took Arc's place Bleach would get the Tokyo revengers treatment.If is not, it should be. Or I will take your place.
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Arc loves it when you keep asking him when something is going to come out, keep asking him.
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Rn Yama is above every Sternritter’s peak with his Bankai.
You think Gremmy should be 4-A?
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Depending on cours 3 and 4, it might no longer be considered an outlier, especially since the anime downgraded the feat to 4-A. Characters in the verse already scale to that tier. Additionally, since the 4-A feat for Senju was a casual passive feat, and for Gremmy, it would be an amped-up by clones feat, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. If we take the strongest Sternritter statement at face value, then Uryuu vs. Senju might be enough, although I don't think he scales above the Royal Guard. Let's see what happens.
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I think a fine mid end scale for Bleach top to god tiers would go sumn like this:
8 Gremmy = 4-A to 3-A (outer space creation feat) < Bankai Yama = 3-A to Low 2-C overtime (destroying SS overtime, treat SS as a universe) < Squad 0 Bankai = 2-C (shook multiple universes) < WSK (sustains the entire cosmology)
Given what the anime did for Shutara, I wouldn’t really refute this general scaling take. And who knows perhaps the last 2 cours will make this far more consistent.
8 Gremmy = 4-A to 3-A (outer space creation feat) < Bankai Yama = 3-A to Low 2-C overtime (destroying SS overtime, treat SS as a universe) < Squad 0 Bankai = 2-C (shook multiple universes) < WSK (sustains the entire cosmology)
Given what the anime did for Shutara, I wouldn’t really refute this general scaling take. And who knows perhaps the last 2 cours will make this far more consistent.
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Now I love you even more. I think tier 2 Senju feat is fine. Via the novels, we have a precedent for something like this, as when the Garganta shook, it distorted space-time if I'm not mistaken. We can avoid the wanking of the novel Garganta feat by pointing out that the size of the portion of the Garganta that shook is unknown, disqualifying it for Tier 2. However, Senju shook three universes, providing a quantifiable size, and it would fall under Tier 2.
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Im pretty certain everyone here knows im not that hyped for tier 2 Bleach.
I prefer hax and multipliers,maybe some better scaling for certain characters but that's it.
I prefer hax and multipliers,maybe some better scaling for certain characters but that's it.
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For most top tiers, mid-tiers, and below, which make up most of the verse, we would keep the funny numbers. Tier 2 and 1 battles are mostly decided by hax unless there's a massive AP gap.
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I might be forgetting this but is it ever explained why ichigo’s zanpakto is always in its shikai form?
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Certain mods watching the BLEACH supporters call victory early, planning a verse-wide downgrade in the background (tier 7 TYBW captains):
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Damage getting the city block Seireitei meta ready to drop.
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I wouldn't really put Gremmy's feat any higher than 3-C
Apart from the kanji being Uchu, not enough to say it's the size of the observable universe
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I would willingly back a hill level god tiers downgrade.
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The argument is semantical a bit, but definitionally, outer space simply refers to the universe outside earth's atmosphere, aka it's the universe minus earth, and earth is such a tiny portion of the universe, it's practically just the universe.
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Same but for Naruto.
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Gremmy should definitely scale to his creation feat imo, unless something in cours 3 and 4 gives us new stuff that would make it inconsistent.
Still, cour 2 did three things that greatly helped the case for him scaling to it:
1. The removal of the galaxy from Gremmy's feat, making it less of an outlier
2. Senjumaru's feat, making it even harder to argue as an outlier since we now have someone who isn't a god tier doing 4-A (or higher) shit on screen
3. The removal of everyone reacting to the meteor as if it were a threat
It's kinda nuts that we got all of these things at the same time tbh, it makes me wonder if it's being done on purpose.
Still, cour 2 did three things that greatly helped the case for him scaling to it:
1. The removal of the galaxy from Gremmy's feat, making it less of an outlier
2. Senjumaru's feat, making it even harder to argue as an outlier since we now have someone who isn't a god tier doing 4-A (or higher) shit on screen
3. The removal of everyone reacting to the meteor as if it were a threat
It's kinda nuts that we got all of these things at the same time tbh, it makes me wonder if it's being done on purpose.
Non-god tiers being in tier 2 is an idea I'll have to warm up to over time ngl, even though I know it's a valid way to interpret things. Shit just looks weird to me
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I think should be at least 3B because we can see a galaxy in the space then kenpachi in another one
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Wasn't the galaxy removed in the anime
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Yeah I forget
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Apparently Cour 2 had many production issues and the art was inconsistent. I will be waiting for the Blu Ray to release next month to see how they visually changed anything with it.
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Toshiro and FBB Ichigo come to mind
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