- 19,785
- 16,206
That's still calc stacking. You're taking a calc from another scene and putting it elsewhere. Any numbers you/a fan gets cannot be applied to another calculation unless they happen in the same scene.
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That's still calc stacking. You're taking a calc from another scene and putting it elsewhere. Any numbers you/a fan gets cannot be applied to another calculation unless they happen in the same scene.
Check the OP. The speed of sound doesn't actually come from any calcs, it's stated in the manga itself. Mach 6 is 100% calc stacking thoughThat's still calc stacking. You're taking a calc from another scene and putting it elsewhere. Any numbers you/a fan gets cannot be applied to another calculation unless they happen in the same scene.
I know, i know, i'm just saying that i don't think that's allowed here, i've seen how they use peak human perception when someone blitz MHS characters and upPeak human? Are you serious? Weak characters are already able to dodge bullets as it was nothing, in Baki Kid they were already FTE, etc.
I used Katsumi as example cuz he broke the sound barrier in the Maximus Saga, just like baki did. Maximus Saga is an old saga where characters were much weaker and slower than in the Pickle saga, so I believe it is evident that Pickle has at least the speed of sound. Also vsbattle considers him High Hypersonic.
If there's an in-universe statement of speed of sound, then the speed of sound can be usedI know, i know, i'm just saying that i don't think that's allowed here, i've seen how they use peak human perception when someone blitz MHS characters and up
This can probably be used then, BUT, i don't think Baki is supposed to be 3000x faster than Pickle (Which the calc suggests)If there's an in-universe statement of speed of sound, then the speed of sound can be used
I don't think I agree with that either, yeah. Both the distance moved and the distance the fist was from Baki are iffy imoThis can probably be used then, BUT, i don't think Baki is supposed to be 3000x faster than Pickle (Which the calc suggests)
The problem here is that he assumes that Baki moved at least 30cm, but seeing the scans it seems like he barely moves a few centimeters at best.
They´re moving constantly at mach 6, that isn´t something?
May be this can support this thread.
I just re-did this calc three times, in the first one i assumed the distance between Baki and Pickle was 1 milimiter and Baki moved 1 centimeter.I don't think I agree with that either, yeah. Both the distance moved and the distance the fist was from Baki are iffy imo
Hey, completely unrelated topic but how fast should a kick be to blow out a candle without touching it?I may try to pixel scale this for a more accurate calc later tonight. Either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how busy I am
I have no ideaHey, completely unrelated topic but how fast should a kick be to blow out a candle without touching it?
I may try to pixel scale this for a more accurate calc later tonight. Either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how busy I am
They used the speed of lightning (440000 m/s) instead of the speed of sound (343 m/s), that's why the calc is inflated. Using the speed of sound, I got Massively Hypersonic+ results, but that's still using the hair width, which I'm on the fence aboutIt was alredy done in a spanish wiki
Link: https://ficcion-sin-limites.fandom.com/es/wiki/Usuario_Blog:Eraxd1219/Baki_esquiva_a_Pickle
But idk, that calc puts the feat as FTL
I think this might confirm that he is indeed dodging a hair's breadthThey used the speed of lightning (440000 m/s) instead of the speed of sound (343 m/s), that's why the calc is inflated. Using the speed of sound, I got Massively Hypersonic+ results, but that's still using the hair width, which I'm on the fence about
That would fall in line with how actually pixel scaling this would go, because both Baki and Pickle move a very short distance in that instanceGuys, you're just trying to jack off at great speed.
Bucky can't be 3000 times faster than Pickle. It cannot be even 100 times faster.
The fact that the strands of Bucky's hair were damaged just shows that even though he began to dodge at the last moment, he simply did not have time to overcome the required distance.
Their speeds are comparable
and ignore what the manga itself gives us? no thank youYou guys should really pixelscale for this...
They are not comparable in speed, it is explicit that Baki is faster during the final part of the fight, it is said that Pickle has never witnessed someone so fast, and it is said that his speed "exceeded the concept of speed"Guys, you're just trying to jack off at great speed.
Bucky can't be 3000 times faster than Pickle. It cannot be even 100 times faster.
The fact that the strands of Bucky's hair were damaged just shows that even though he began to dodge at the last moment, he simply did not have time to overcome the required distance.
Their speeds are comparable
Nah, baki is really muuuch faster than pickle, read their fight. Baki created clones of himself in Pickle perception, managed to do 3-hit combos without Pickle noticing, etc.Guys, you're just trying to jack off at great speed.
Bucky can't be 3000 times faster than Pickle. It cannot be even 100 times faster.
The fact that the strands of Bucky's hair were damaged just shows that even though he began to dodge at the last moment, he simply did not have time to overcome the required distance.
Their speeds are comparable
You’d be surprised how much people on vs wiki don’t do this lolNah, baki is really muuuch faster than pickle, read their fight. Baki created clones of himself in Pickle perception, managed to do 3-hit combos without Pickle noticing, etc.
Okey then, my main problem with this calc is that you used 30cm for no reason at all, it is very arbitrary.I think this might confirm that he is indeed dodging a hair's breadth
The scene shows that Pickle punch came so close that it missed Baki skin by millimeters.
I read the entire manga (3 times), and just reread the figth to be sure, now i pretty much agree that Pickle being 3000x slower than Base Baki from Pickle's arc is extremely questionable, right after Baki urinated on the arena, Pickle got really mad, and Baki was barely able to react to Pickle's attacks.Nah, baki is really muuuch faster than pickle, read their fight. Baki created clones of himself in Pickle perception, managed to do 3-hit combos without Pickle noticing, etc.
We all know that, but we still need to figure out the distance between Pickle and Baki to calculate it properly, and "the minimum distance" is pretty vague.I think we are going about this the wrong way.
He doesn't Dodge Pickle's attacks FROM a hair's breadth away.
He dodge's the minimum distance needed in order for him to avoid the attack.
It'd be like me dodging a bullet but the bullet passes my face at a distance of 1mm.
I didn't dodge the bullet from 1mm away I just dodged the minimum distance needed to avoid it.
It's clear that's what Baki is doing in this fight, he is trying to doge at the very last moment in order to conserve as much movement as possible.
It's also clear that pickle isn't the one getting faster
This entire fight is Baki is using Pickle for training for his upcoming fight with his father
I am refuting OP's argument not arguing for it. I know he didn't get 3000 times faster in that fight.We all know that, but we still need to figure out the distance between Pickle and Baki to calculate it properly, and "the minimum distance" is pretty vague.
Also yeah Baki is becoming faster but i don't think it is for the same reasons that you think, firstly because becoming 3000x faster while training sounds very questionable, and second, well, i already explained it in my comment.
Okay so he didn't become faster, he went from barely being able to react to Pickle's attacks to seeing Pickle in slow motion, but his speed still the same?I am refuting OP's argument not arguing for it. I know he didn't get 3000 times faster in that fight.
Also he doesn't even really become faster he just learns to dodge the minimum distance needed
His perception increasing doesn't necessarily mean his speed increased.Okay so he didn't become faster, he went from barely being able to react to Pickle's attacks to seeing Pickle in slow motion, but his speed still the same?
This is a speed amp based on technique, not a power up based on sheer training.
His perception increasing doesn't necessarily mean his speed increased.
Baki created clones of himself in Pickle perception, managed to do 3-hit combos without Pickle noticing, etc.
Actually based af, like, i remember Retsu dodging a ******* explosion in the death row inmate saga, that's at least hypersonic and characters like Dorian should scale.Ehhh tbh I really don’t see the point in this crt lol. I think there are way better shit to calc for the Baki verse
Yeah that shit got like high hypersonic lol I got a friend to calc that shitActually based af, like, i remember Retsu dodging a ******* explosion in the death row inmate saga, that's at least hypersonic and characters like Dorian should scale.