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Why would you need soul manip to copy a skill?
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Awakened Demon Lord Rimuru Tempest vs End God Mode Medaka Kurokami
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Ultimate skills are born from the user, deep from their soul, and are etched into their Nucleic Heart.
To even possess the skills require you have a strong soul.
To even possess the skills require you have a strong soul.
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Nothing proves she can, provide evidence of her doing so, otherwise it's an NLF.
Prove she meets the requirements in order to posses the ability.
Just saying she can copy anything is a blatant NLF.
Prove she meets the requirements in order to posses the ability.
Just saying she can copy anything is a blatant NLF.
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Is there any proof that medaka does not have a strong soul?
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Is there any proof that Medaka has a strong soul?Iceassassin25 said:
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^^ A minus is the byproduct of a deranged mind. The more you use minuses the more deranged you become and medaka has like 400 minuses bare minimum.TriforcePower1 said:
She's not resisting the minds of 400+ deranged ppl though, instead the end allows her to learn skills without the requirements or conditions. Add in that's what the ability does.
One more thing no one can hold every ability example kuma can only hold 3 yet medaka has 800+ skills. Cus the end disregards the compatibility condition.
One cannot learn skills that has an effect that is not included in their desires yet medaka doesn't care.
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That exact same thing but on the mind instead can be said about every skill. Yet as i said medaka has over 800.Celestial Pegasus said:
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Mind =/= soul.
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No. I just proved you the end bypasses conditions. I don't see why the soul condition is any different from the ones I told you medaka bypasses.
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Not the point medaka doesn't have a strong mind yet she can do those because the end negates conditions. Now you have to prove why the soul condition is different from the others and why the end cannot copy anyway.Celestial Pegasus said:
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@Fire You showed it could do it in one case, but are trying to apply it to all cases, which you haven't shown to be the case, which is an NLF.
And minus and ultimate skills aren't comparable, two separate abilities, ultimate skills grant the user understanding over the laws of the world while also releasing the user from said laws, along with resistances to all abilities that aren't ultimate skills.
And minus and ultimate skills aren't comparable, two separate abilities, ultimate skills grant the user understanding over the laws of the world while also releasing the user from said laws, along with resistances to all abilities that aren't ultimate skills.
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Yeah, Rimuru for the arguments given above, it really doesn't seem like Medaka can copy his stuff without NLF.
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I told you it negated like 4 conditions which are all conditions to use skills yet you're saying my condition is special. Why is that?
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Mind doesn't equal soul. Prove she can bypass these specific conditions.
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Imma say medaka due to becoming a 120% slime.
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That's not how it works dude.The Wright Way said:
That's like saying p null has only worked on mind and soul manip prove it will work on attack reflection.
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The End copies regardless of the condition of the original user. If the original user needed a deranged mind to use their ability, Medaka does not. By proxy, if the original user needed a strong soul, Medaka does not. And Medaka does not gain a deranged mind or a strong soul by copying. So she wouldnt get any resistance from copying the skill.
This is not the slime's verse. This is neutral, so trying to apply Rimuru's verse logic is faulty.
This is not the slime's verse. This is neutral, so trying to apply Rimuru's verse logic is faulty.
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Skills are born from the users desires and are thus personal, unique skills are etched into the surface of the soul, ultimate skills are within the soul, and require a strong soul to possess.
Ultimate skills grant the user understanding over the laws of the world, while releasing their user from them, also making them resistant to abilities which aren't ultimate skills.
Regardless Medaka doesn't resist info analysis and doesn't even have non-physical interaction, ultimate skills can't be analyzed, and the users can give fake info about said skills.
All Rimuru has to do is look at her and he has has knowledge about her abilities, which he then copies or comes up with countermeasures.
Saying she can ignore all conditions to get an ability i still think is an NLF.
Ultimate skills grant the user understanding over the laws of the world, while releasing their user from them, also making them resistant to abilities which aren't ultimate skills.
Regardless Medaka doesn't resist info analysis and doesn't even have non-physical interaction, ultimate skills can't be analyzed, and the users can give fake info about said skills.
All Rimuru has to do is look at her and he has has knowledge about her abilities, which he then copies or comes up with countermeasures.
Saying she can ignore all conditions to get an ability i still think is an NLF.
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I am going to use that Saitama excuse and that is she is a gag character so she can't lose
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Well, don't. She's lost before on this site and she'll probably lose again. That excuse flies for no one.Iceassassin25 said:
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You didn't get that it was a joke did you?
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You didn't get that it was a joke did you?
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Rimuru, they have already said several arguments. It exceeds in skills to Medaka, and although this one can copy skills, in first, the skills of Tensei Shitara are different from those of Medaka Box, and apart, even if they were equal, Rimuru possesses resistance to Information Analysis, obviously Medaka needs it to able to copy an ability
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Medaka fra
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^dont count this vote.
Cause we haven't established a well-ex stance on how Medaka can outright beat out Rimuru more times than not. I mean, I only care about who goes to easier win-con first in-character.
Cause we haven't established a well-ex stance on how Medaka can outright beat out Rimuru more times than not. I mean, I only care about who goes to easier win-con first in-character.
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The vote is based off a No Lomits Fallacy, so it wouldn't have been counted anyways.
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Rimuru FRA
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I meant, I heard and read all the arguments here in Medaka's favor. Can't say I got much out of them besides NLF stuff.
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Rimuru analyzes, copies, negates, evolves, and absorbs her. This match didn't need to happen.
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