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Atriox VS Master Chief

just like the title says.

speed equalised and standard equipment.

battle takes place in the ark and they start 10m away from each other.

masterchief: 2

atriox: 0

inconclusive: 0
 
This is a tough one. When I'm not feeling pressured by having to go to work, I'll come back with a proper debate point.

But could you please specify a bit more? What weapons could MC have access to on the Battlefield? Is this Gen 2 Mjolnir Chief? Etc.
 
basically current chief vs current atriox, i found this matchup quite interesting after watching how atriox stomped the red team like they were nothing. so yes chief with generation 2 MJOLNIR equipped, all unsc weapons allowed but no hard light shield for chief and no inceneration cannon.
 
Alright, I'll give my first argument then.


One thing to note about Spartan Team Red, is that they were wearing Mjolnir Mk4 armor. Meanign physically they're likely weaker than John in his Mk5 armor we see in CE. Hell, they don't even have energy shields.

In addition, Atriox did take them by surprise. I don't think the outcome would have changed if they knew what they were up against, but it's still something to keep in mind.

Those Spartans were frozen for like 20 some years, and don't have nearly as much experience as John does. John did actually out-wrestle a Brute in First Strike while exhasuted, and with his Mk5 falling apart.

With his Gen 2 Mjolnir, he's much stronger than before. He's comparable to Edward Buck as a Spartan, who in one of the more recent novels pretty easily stomped a Promethean Soldier's head in. That same Soldier can withstand Sticky Grenades, and the Scattershot to some extent.

Atriox is likely still stronger than John, especially with Chainbreaker. But the power gap is nothing like what it was between Atriox and Spartan Team Red.

Master Chief is not an utter bufoon. He's fought many Brutes, and Chieftains. He knows better than to just run head on into H2H combat with a Brute. Especially one as imposing as Atriox.

His standard Arsenal will likely include an Assault Rifle, and some grenades. The rifle is obviously useless, though the Grenades may be able to do some damage to Atriox.

Master Chief will likely scour the battlefield for either a Spartan Laser, or a Rocket launcher. Atriox doesn't have any real ranged options here, aside from pulling Master Chief towards him with Chainbreaker.

But given how one of Red Team survived being slammed by Chainbreaker, I'm pretty confident John will too, and get up.

Besides, I doubt that Atriox could just shurg off a Spartan Laser shot. He'd probably survive it, but would be pretty messed up at the least. This is the same weapon that can do some damage to a Warden Eternal.

Honestly, I'd give it to John High-Difficulty. Due to experience fighting enemies way stronger than him. And that there are weapons on the battlefield he could potentially use to turn the tide. In addition to being much stronger than any member of Spartan Red Team.

Though it could go the other way as well.
 
i would like to add that the spartan that was hit by chainbreaker was immediatly taken out of commision and passed out from the hit and was heavily injured so i think master chief would suffer alot of damage from one hit. atriox also pretty causually beat red team without suffering any damage. his experince is also probably greater than chiefs due to him fighting most of his life with him being older than chief and mostly awake during his life unlike chief who went to cryosleep sometimes. it is also pretty important to note that atriox with his banished was the only being/leader that managed to hold off the covenant and survive at the height of thier power which not even the unsc could do with them requring a fracturing of the covenant even with the master chief in thier arsenal. as you said i think it really could go either way but i am leaning towards atriox however i cant vote.

  • edited the banished part in.
 
That was talking about the Banished as a whole, not Atriox by himself.

Also, Master Chief never went into cryosleep for any very long periods of time aside from the gap between Halo 3 and 4. Spartan Red Team was out of comission for 20+ years.

Also, age is never a good debating point. For starters, Atriox and John are nearly the same age. And we have no idea how young Atriox was when he first started training and fighting. John was doing so since he was 6. Hell, even before being kidnapped for the Spartan Program to some extent.

I mean, John has survived some pretty gnarly Blunt Force Attacks. Such as receiving a casual punch from The Didact.

Again, my point of Spartan Team Red being much weaker than John as he is now. Master Chief's going to survive it. He may be pretty injured, but he will still be able to fight.
 
good points, for the banished bit i was trying to refer to his intelligence which could come really handy in this fight.
 
as i would imagine that atriox, knowing his physical and melee superiority over master chief, would try to keep masterchief close to him at all times and use chainbreaker to beat him but that is if he manages to pull a gravity pull on masterchief though as you said masterchief has alot of experince with fighting foes much greater than himself in raw power but atriox is very intelligent in both combat and strategy. however, masterchief could also formulate strategies of his won that would allow him to beat atriox, it really is a toss up.
 
btw i would like to add that the red team do have energy fields as thier armor were prototypes of future Mjolnir armor. idk if this makes much a difference but isnt jerome basically a younger masterchief? like jerome is what masterchief was when he was around the same age and he is quite clearly one of the best of best of spartans similar to the masterchief himself and noble six, he was just unfortuantly frozen due to the events of halo wars 1 which didnt allow us to see his full potential which we will probably witness in future halo games and possibily halo infinite, jerome also destroyed a massive group of brutes and sangheili in the banished's mothership, the enduring conviction, with ease and after the ship was cut in half, he did a masterchief and jumped from the ship in space back into the ark with no harm done to him, he also near singehandidly stopped a flood infestation on the spirit of fire. if masterchief ever dies then jerome should 100% succeced him. anyway back to the main point, even though jerome managed to pull all of that off he was still stomped by atriox even when he had both his team-mates alongside him.

atriox also has alot of experince with dealing with spartans as his time in the covenant was spent hunting down spartans and other special forces. he was also the only survivor in 40 man sucidie missions multiple times which gained him great infamy throughout the covenant.
 
Even if they do have energy shields (witch has always broken the lore) They're still weaker than John's Mk5, whitch colapsed from a single fuel rod shot in a comic, while his Mk 6 can take 6 or so consecutively. Nevermind his Mk7, that can to some degree tank Forerunner weapons.

I feel like you're missing my point on how much stronger John with his Gen 2 Mjolnir is than than the Spratan Red Team members with their dated armors. Even so. If Master Chief did win, witch is heavily debatable, it would be 9.90/10 the hardest fight he'd ever have. Arguably more so than his fights against the Didact even.
 
it really is a toss up isnt it xD. can you by any chance explain how powerful gen 2 is on chief so i can understand how strong is gen 2 chief is? i have seen a brute chiftean kill a spartan with one hit from thier hammer alibiet it was a suprise hit to the head and shoulder and it was a brutal hit (gen 1 armor though), which atriox might pull off on chief giving his previous experinces in his service under the covenant which was basically hunting down spartans and ODST's and he definitaly knows about chief while the same can not be said for chief knowing about atriox, this means that atriox would always try to keep the advantage of close range with his hammer chainbreaker by pulling chief to him all the time and smaking him with it, if atriox manages to him a couple of times or hit a critical spot then it would be a win for atriox. however, if chief manages to get away from atriox and used his more powerful weapons then chief would win unless atriox's shield can really hold out aganist that kind of firepower until he gets close again. why i think atriox will win is basically i dont see how gen 2 armor would make masterchief so superior as too allow him to be much stronger than 3 spartan 2's one of whom is jerome one of the best spartan 2's who is basically a younger chief with very impressive feats himself. atriox also has a crazy record and his tactical and strateigic genius is undisuputable, like for example surviving countless sucicde missions with him being the only survivor out of 40 of his squad members and being part of basically the covenant's version of spartans.

he has also insane levels of strength and durability greater than any brute seen thus far in the series (which gained him great infamy througout the covenant) further enhanced by his power armor and shields and his OP gravity hammer which would make him a greater foe than even tartus and we know how much it took to bring him down which makes me believe that masterchief wouldnt be able to take him down alone. i also see atriox as the masterchief but brute version as he united many brutes and other covenant races under his command through intellect and strength.
 
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