Asura Wrath Low 2-C upgrade

[BoomerKuwanger1]

The Creator has been stated to have been the creator of the universe,shouldn't the entire verse be low 2-C?

 

[Genericstickman]

Scan? Also it'd just scale to chakravartin and Asura

 

[Nathan.bainger.9]

Ep 19's illustration has Chakravartin state that he holds everything in the palm of his hand, a verbatim word for word quote of Buddha in Journey to the West....

 

[Xx.davidparra]

I agree I was confused when i saw Asura is only 4-A when in the game he shows multi galaxy to universal levels of power

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Timeframe ?

 

[Genericstickman]

Where? He'd probably be universal if their exists a statement stating that Mantra maintains the universe or something like that but that doesn't exist to my knowledge

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I dont recall anything of that level, could you post scans?

 

[Genericstickman]

I'm pretty sure the multi-galaxy feat comes from the galaxy looking not galaxy attacks Chakravartin shoots out

 

[Xx.davidparra]

its stated that chakravartin is the creator of the universe and it wouldnt be far fetched to think so,the game is also heavily based on hindu mythology and mantra or chakra is an energy all things in the Universe have,even if you don't think hes low 2-C in his golden form he dwarfed galaxies which show put him at least multi galaxy level but im all for your guys's feedback

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Can you post where that was stated?

The galaxies he dwarfed arent galaxy sized

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Those "Galaxies" he dwarfed where small as hell. His hand could crush them but a blast shot from said hands wasn't that much bigger than the Earth.

 

[Dragopentling]

does anyone have screenshots of these low 2-C feats?

 

[Xx.davidparra]

i rewatched the fight and the planets and stars chakravartin threw at Asura where far in front of him

 

[Xx.davidparra]

and at the end when Asura punches Chakravartin in the forehead,Compared to the galaxies in size you cant even see Asura

 

[Dragopentling]

Also, I'm pretty sure Chakravartin 4-A tiering also comes from him making some sort of pocket dimension/universe in where he has the final showdown against Asura.

 

[Xx.davidparra]

but even with it being a pocket dimension he still was able create dozens of galaxies

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Those galaxies werent galaxy sized though

 

[Xx.davidparra]

how?

 

[Dragopentling]

can you show the picture of those galaxies, please?

 

[Dragopentling]

I did find this: I'm guessing 3-A or High 3-A?

 

[Xx.davidparra]

 

[Xx.davidparra]

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I did find this: I'm guessing 3-A or High 3-A?

That is fanart

 

[Therefir]

Chakravartin's ray beam, which is larger than his fingers, is just a few times larger than the Earth.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

We had a very extensive debate about this years back. Those "galaxies" can't be actual galaxies.

 

[Eganergo]

We had a very extensive debate about this years back. Those "galaxies" can't be actual galaxies.

Fake galaxies then?

 

[Dragopentling]

We had a very extensive debate about this years back. Those "galaxies" can't be actual galaxies.

Hence why I stated that the 4A pocket dimension feat was much more believable.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Just read this entire thread.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Therefir

I think that particular instance is just size inconsistency since Charkravartin's fingers are bigger than most stars and planets that he tossed at Asura and some of those planets dwarfed Asura who was noticably larger than Earth.

 

[Xx.davidparra]

im pretty sure every shot of the fight isnt accurate when it comes to size every time if the beam was accurately portrayed in size it would mess up the gameplay

 

[Dragopentling]

We had a very extensive debate about this years back. Those "galaxies" can't be actual galaxies.

Fake galaxies then?

I guess you can call them mini galaxies created by him. That's still 3-C at best.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

A miniature galaxy is not a 3-C feat

 

[Xx.davidparra]

and at the end of the fight planet size asura is super small compared to the galaxies that you cant even see him on Chakravartins forehead

 

[Dragopentling]

A miniature galaxy is not a 3-C feat

Ohh my bad. Then tbh, from the looks of it, the galaxies are just decorations, then. Also, even if Chakra DID create the universe, it didn't state how long it took him to make it. How fast does one need to make or break a universe to be considered 3-A or Low 2-C?

 

[Duedate8898]

Length of time doesn't matter for creation feats, what matters is if he created the universe in terms of all the matter inhabiting it or in terms of space time. At least, that's how I think it works.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Timeframe definitely matters, a person who created a galaxy by making one star at a time isnt the same as a person who makes a whole galaxy all at once

 

[Duedate8898]

In that case, the last part of my previous statement still stands however with the context that timeframe is considered important only if he created all the matter in the universe and not the timespace?

 

[Foxthefox1000]

Lmao yet we use vague as lights in space to justify people legit being star level even despite verses where the feat originate having "stars" the size of like a quarter. This seems hypocritical and all verses with an inconsistent cosmology should recieve scrutiny like this.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Fox What verse is that?

 

[Nathan.bainger.9]

We're able to give leeway to Dante and Kratos for being seeming high 3-A to Low 2-C for some reason.

But somehow, Asura destroying the endless realms of Naraka and the Event Horizon as maintained by Chakravartin is still only considered 4-A.