Asta vs Meliodas 0-0-0

[speedster352]

Use Raia against first 6-C Meliodas or first high 7-A demon Mark Meliodas

Wait a sec raia has bfr

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Why though?

Because I don´t know how Meliodas does against versatile magic users and Raia already lost against someone to like Mereoleona that could literally sent all his attacks back like Meliodas does with Full counter

Wait a sec raia has bfr

Using Valtos' space magic and is something he never use in any fight, he use space magic to teleport himself 100% of the time

 

[speedster352]

Because I don´t know how Meliodas does against versatile magic users and Raia already lost against someone to like Mereoleona that could literally sent all his attacks back like Meliodas does with Full counter



Using Valtos' space magic and is something he never use in any fight, he use space magic to teleport himself 100% of the time

OK, but what is his ap though?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

OK, but what is his ap though?

The High 7-A+ characters like the base form Third Eye are upscaled far higher than William's Calc (2.65 Gigatons)

The 6-C+ characters like Valkyrie Dress Noelle and Royal Knights Arc Spirit Dive Yuno scale to 2x the 6-C characters due to a 6-C base Yuno fusing with Bell, adding her power to his own, which is at least as strong as him (53 Gigatons)

 

[speedster352]

So what are the win cons?

 

[speedster352]

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[Arkenis]

What is prime mel

 

[speedster352]

What is prime mel

Meliodas in the past was ruthless and emotionless

 

[Arkenis]

Meliodas in the past was ruthless and emotionless

Is that a key?

 

[speedster352]

Is that a key?

Yes

 

[Arkenis]

Yes

How strong is he in it?

 

[speedster352]

How strong is he in it?

25 gigatons in base form 75 gigatons in assault mode

 

[Arkenis]

25 gigatons in base form 75 gigatons in assault mode

Ap difference then. Mel wins from that. Raia only scales to 26 gigatons

 

[speedster352]

Ap difference then. Mel wins from that. Raia only scales to 26 gigatons

This is his base form

 

[Arkenis]

This is his base form

oh assault mode then? Ok Well Mel outhaxes it seems. Raia doesn't have much to deal with the hellblaze or the powernull Mel has.

 

[speedster352]

oh assault mode then? Ok Well Mel outhaxes it seems. Raia doesn't have much to deal with the hellblaze or the powernull Mel has.

Melliodas is in his base form

 

[Arkenis]

Melliodas is in his base form

does he not have hell blaze in his base?

 

[speedster352]

does he not have hell blaze in his base?

He does but he is 25 gigatons in base form

 

[speedster352]

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[speedster352]

does he not have hell blaze in his base?

Should I switch with another BC character?

 

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[Arkenis]

Close this, fix Meliodas’s page, make it more detailed, more accurate. Raia also has no good win cons, most are dodgeable

 

[speedster352]

Close this, fix Meliodas’s page, make it more detailed, more accurate. Raia also has no good win cons, most are dodgeable

Should I use Asta then?

 

[Arkenis]

Should I use Asta then?

Depends which mel and asta.

 

[speedster352]

Depends which mel and asta.

I used royal knight arc Asta against prime Meliodas can you find their ap real quick. Meliodas ap is 75 gigatons

 

[Arkenis]

I used royal knight arc Asta against prime Meliodas can you find their ap real quick. Meliodas ap is 75 gigatons

Idk what royal arc is but him in elf invasion is superior to 75 gigatons

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Idk what royal arc is but him in elf invasion is superior to 75 gigatons

26.5 Gigatons In base

53 Gigatons in Black Asta

 

[speedster352]

Idk what royal arc is but him in elf invasion is superior to 75 gigatons

Meliodas ap is 25.2 Gigatons in base and 75.6 Gigatons in assualt mode

 

[Arkenis]

26.5 Gigatons In base

53 Gigatons in Black Asta

Meliodas ap is 25.2 Gigatons in base and 75.6 Gigatons in assualt mode

Then it becomes ap advantage for Mel. by a decent a mount. Still it's doable. make a new thread don't apply it to this.

 

[speedster352]

Then it becomes ap advantage for Mel. by a decent a mount. Still it's doable. make a new thread don't apply it to this.

Why make a new thread?

 

[Jibz]

Then it becomes ap advantage for Mel. by a decent a mount. Still it's doable. make a new thread don't apply it to this.

id like to see an original demon matchup lowkey

 

[Arkenis]

id like to see an original demon matchup lowkey

vs asta?

 

[Jibz]

vs asta?

vs anyone tbh

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah I wanted to do Raia vs Original Demon but then I realized people would argue Cusack and Chandlers hax in the debate so then Im like maybe Raia vs Mael but then I realized the power null arguments will be the main topic so just dk. Raia's hax just aren't enough to do good against Mel or other demons in the verse. I think Original Demon vs Julius could be nice

 

[Jibz]

Yeah I wanted to do Raia vs Original Demon but then I realized people would argue Cusack and Chandlers hax in the debate so then Im like maybe Raia vs Mael but then I realized the power null arguments will be the main topic so just dk. Raia's hax just aren't enough to do good against Mel or other demons in the verse. I think Original Demon vs Julius could be nice

Julius vs OG Demon? YES

 

[speedster352]

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