Ashiok vs Rimuru

[00potato]

Speed equal if needed 6-C versions used.

Ashiok

Vs

Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

Fight takes place in the nightmarish plane of Quebec.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How good is Rimuru's mind hax resistance?

 

[Everything12]

Well Rimuru has this "Immunity to Mind Manipulation (Rimuru's memories are stored in his astral body, and as long as he retains his conscious soul and memory, he can be revived even when his body is completely damaged. In other words, he can think with his soul and is thus immune to mind control effects)" but I don't thinking needing to Mindhax the Soul would be a issue for Ashiok, and I don't know how good Rimuru's Soul Hax resistance it.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Wouldnt that just be a resistance to memory manip? Not mind manip? Seeing as his consciousness is still in his body?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Wouldnt that just be a resistance to memory manip? Not mind manip? Seeing as his consciousness is still in his body?

The counsciouness is in the soul itself, so one needs to affect the soul to affect his mind

 

[Schnee_One]

Ashiok can affect souls so that's out

 

[Everything12]

No idea, this has been accepted as Mind Hax Immunity since the Web Novel profile, which used the exact same mechanic, it was always been just accepted as a thing that is true for some time so no one really expands on it in threads.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Thats how we treat most consciousnesses though, the only time we say otherwise in terms of mind hax is when said hax is done by directly altering someone's physical brain

 

[Schnee_One]

Literally any mind manipulation that can affect souls or non corporals would have no probelm mindhaxing Rimuru's soul.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Can Ashiok deal with Rimuru's passives?

 

[Everything12]

It does say that the user thinks with their Soul here and that it gives Immunity to Mind Control.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Can Ashiok deal with Rimuru's passives?

What are his passives?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Can Ashiok deal with Rimuru's passives?

What are his passives?

Fear, Madness, Corrosion, Death and Sleep

 

[Schnee_One]

It does say that the user thinks with their Soul here and that it gives Immunity to Mind Control.

Ashiok can affect and mindhax souls, so this immunity is ultimately meaningless

 

[Everything12]

As expected, though Rimuru does have Soul hax Resistance, though I don't know it's potency.

 

[00potato]

What are his passives?
Fear, Madness, Corrosion, Death and Sleep

What are the ranges of the passives?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

What are his passives?

Fear, Madness, Corrosion, Death and Sleep What are the ranges of the passives?
Kilometers

 

[00potato]

What are his passives?Fear, Madness, Corrosion, Death and Sleep What are the ranges of the passives?
Kilometers

Unless they kill him instantly then Ashiok could just go to another plane and use his range to get him.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Rimuru's mind=soul, so he also resists the same potency as his mind hax, which is in his soul. And currently his soulhax potency is massively above 15-20,000. Not to mention his barriers that double his resistance, and you forgot passive confusion, and radiation.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ashiok's hax potency is multiple cities + everyone who has ever died

 

[Schnee_One]

<Everyone who has ever died

Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

20K soukhax<<<<Gluttony<<<<Beelzebub

But that looks like a stomp in potency. Is it passive or his first move?

 

[Everything12]

Technically it's everyone who has ever died on a planet/universe completely different to our own, but I believe we just equate stuff like this to our own world.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

What are his passives?

Fear, Madness, Corrosion, Death and Sleep
What are the ranges of the passives?KilometersUnless they kill him instantly then Ashiok could just go to another plane and use his range to get him.
Yes, it does. The effects are instant

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

All are instant. In fact, via this thread, Rimuru's passives have a bit more abilities.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

20K soukhax<<<<Gluttony<<<<Beelzebub

But that looks like a stomp in potency. Is it passive or his first move?

It is passive yes

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

And what is the range?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Low Multiversal

 

[GLHF22]

Raphael could Null the mind Hax effect after anlyze it.

 

[Schnee_One]

It's passive though

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Then his match with Mami is a stomp, no?

 

[GLHF22]

It's passive though

And? Raphael is A.I. thats can move on its own.

 

[Schnee_One]

Because it needs to not only analyze but also null faster then it can think uless its not affected by mind manipulation

 

[GLHF22]

Because it needs to not only analyze but also null faster then it can think uless its not affected by mind manipulation

Its not of course, why do you think it would affected? Its Rimuru skill.

 

[Schnee_One]

And? Explain a bit more then its a skill and automatically assuming I know.

 

[GLHF22]

All Raphael need to do is either Null the mind Hax or let Beelzebub to run amok.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ashiok doesn't seem to resist Rimuru's stuff either, so Incon FRA.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raphael could Null the mind Hax effect after anlyze it.

Ashiok can null that null with his own null

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ashiok doesn't seem to resist Rimuru's stuff either, so Incon FRA.

Does Rimuru's stuff kill? Because Ashiok's stuff kills

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yes