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Ashiok vs Rimuru

Ashiok technically isnt alive seeing as he's a Nightmare

What does radiation do?

Tchnically a lot of Rimuru's passives should be resisted outright due to Ashiok's physiology as a Nightmare
 
That's not what it says in the profile and there's no listed Nightmare physiology either

The justification is already listed to the blog I sent

I only see 3 resistance on his profile
 
"High concentration of magicule is toxic to organic life"

Okay so that wouldnt affect Ashiok off the bat, he's not organic, he's a nightmare, a spiritual manifestations of humanity's fears and negative thoughts

"The aura can instantly kill humans except humans who ascended to Sage or higher. It can turn the land area into a wasteland or land of death and due to their aura, any monsters rank B+ and below will instantly die."

Can you explain what sage and B+ rank monster means in this context?
 
For the Sage, here's the quote:

Saints are a high rank species that human can evolve into through many years of rigorous training. People who reach this level are called ÒÇîSageÒÇì. Their lifespan is greatly lengthened and have the ability to transform into a semi-spiritual-lifeform. They would be rid of the shackles of the human flesh. And that's why people who reached the level of Sage are able to utilize enormous power. Their immense physical prowess and precision in magical usage has been strengthened far beyond what an average man could foresee, making them powerful beings, able to rival the ÒÇîDemon Lord BreedÒÇì43. They are the guardians of mankind and are slowly evolving into the envoys of God.
For Monsters, it's quite difficult to explain since every monster are made up of magicule (Which is chemical element + magical substance + will) and they are judge by ranks. The death manip is magical in nature that comes from magicule and if you don't fit the criteria of being A rank then you instantly die. Sages are considered Special A rank

Off topic: Shouldn't Ashiok fight for Unknown instead since he's only 6-C with magic? I remember someone saying that they should be physically on that tier in order for them to have a place on the strongest tier
 
Ashiok can null that null with his own null

Rimuru Resist P Null, also Rimuru can adapt to your ability.
 
What kind of power null does he resist? Ashiok's is done by directly removing the opponent's memory of the technique theyre using, this preventing them from using it or even knowing its something they could do in the first place. The same can be done to his adaptation.
 
Wait, Ashiok doesnt have P Null in his Profile

Rimuru can Null by anlyze copy and cancel the ability altogether


Rimuru Resist memory manip, and His memory can be restored by Raphael as long as His soul is still intact.
 
Please read above, its alrady been agreed that Ashiok can affect Rimuru with his mind hax and memory hax

Ashiok can just erase the memory of being able to analyze
 
Schnee One said:
It's not actual powernull, it's memory Manip

Also, again, Ashiok can affect souls, Raphael is moot
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And? Can affect souls and Raphael still able to Null and copy its ability,

@Weekly Rimuru never anlyze something, it is Raphael who analyze everything.
 
So Ashiok removes Raphael's memory of the ability to do so, thus preventing him from nulling or copying it
 
Schnee One said:
Raphael can't null and copy if it's mind screwed
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Raphael is Rimuru's ability, she is an abstract conceptual A.I. most likely you need concepts manip, data/information manip, power modification,hacking and something like that to mess with Raphael.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
So Ashiok removes Raphael's memory of the ability to do so, thus preventing him from nulling or copying it
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He can remove a memory of a fking ability?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Ashiok's hax potency is multiple cities + everyone who has ever died
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I love how this post sets up multiple cities as "Whoa, that's a lot" then tags on a 10+ digit number as an afterthought.
 
Hrmm.

Still leaning towards Ashiok here. Better potency is quite the kicker.
 
Ashiok doesn't even know that Raphael exist and even the characters in-verse doesn't know it exist either with stuffs like clairvoyance, info analysis, etc.

Also if they passive each other, Rimuru will still win because his passive lethal due to death manip
 
Rimuru stomps then. If he can't get past his Absolute Defense, which requires Spatial Manipulation (which he also resists, and that resistance is doubled with his Multilayer Barrier), and seemingly Information Manipulation to decode the attack, then you can't harm him.
 
Although what I'm saying is untranslated, The barrier also blocks mind attacks to and it needs to cross the boundaries/dimesion of each layer of barriers which was proven against Mariabell's mind control even though being an Ultimate Skill user outright resist Mariabell's unique skill Greed which is mind control
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Rimuru stomps then. If he can't get past his Absolute Defense, which requires Spatial Manipulation (which he also resists, and that resistance is doubled with his Multilayer Barrier), and seemingly Information Manipulation to decode the attack, then you can't harm him.
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Sounds like a hard NLF ngl.
 
Moritzva said:
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Rimuru stomps then. If he can't get past his Absolute Defense, which requires Spatial Manipulation (which he also resists, and that resistance is doubled with his Multilayer Barrier), and seemingly Information Manipulation to decode the attack, then you can't harm him.
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Sounds like a hard NLF ngl.
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I just gave you two ways to breach it. He resists both, but he's not immune.
 
MrDrProfessorPatricio said:
Ashiok doesn't even know that Raphael exist and even the characters in-verse doesn't know it exist either with stuffs like clairvoyance, info analysis, etc.

Also if they passive each other, Rimuru will still win because his passive lethal due to death manip
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Ashiok's passives are lethal as well

What is Raphael then?
 
MrDrProfessorPatricio said:
Although what I'm saying is untranslated, The barrier also blocks mind attacks to and it needs to cross the boundaries/dimesion of each layer of barriers which was proven against Mariabell's mind control even though being an Ultimate Skill user outright resist Mariabell's unique skill Greed which is mind control
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Ashiok's mind hax has the ability to do that
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Rimuru stomps then. If he can't get past his Absolute Defense, which requires Spatial Manipulation (which he also resists, and that resistance is doubled with his Multilayer Barrier), and seemingly Information Manipulation to decode the attack, then you can't harm him.
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