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But Loki is an illusionist as well. Loki was still absolutely nothing to Hela. Also Ares may be the god of war, but Hela is no stranger to combat, and was conquering realms before the humans even acknowledged the Arsgardians as gods.
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Please provide source that the MCU wiki is written by the movie writers or officials that were given the go signal to do so. Any less means that the MCU wiki doesn't hold much water in this discussion, as there was no mention, implication or any hint at all that Surtur died.Hellbeast1 said:Aside from the fact that it is stated both on his page here and the fact he is listed as deceased on the official MCU wiki along with their being like no chance he could have survved?
Hela due to having better abilities.Vivec the warrior-poet said:Ares due to having better abilities.
Vivec the warrior-poet said:She doesn't have portal creation, she needed Heimdall's sword to travel to other worlds, it's a pretty big part of the plot of the movie.
Longlevity is not a battle factor, and Ares is probably older so make what you want from that.
Ares has Regenerationn as well.
Martial arts and weapon mastery are good but Ares is the god of war and he did battle Diana who had been training for a few thousand years.
Are's matter manipulation is far superior to Hela's, all she can do is make a helmet and a few blades (and the helmet is pretty much useless), Ares created his full body, multiple weapons such as sword and a chain.
She can only manipulate her weapons (in an extremely limited way, she was pretty much telekinetically throwing them) nothing else with her "telekinesis", while Ares showed some extremely good feats with this power.(like overpowering Wonder Woman with it)