Are Outliers still feats?

[Credible_Hulk]

In fictional series their have been outliers in a characters feats, but does that make it any less of a feat.

Ex. Master Roshi blowing up moon.

Naruto dodging lightspeed attack.


Just because something is an outlier does it mean its unquantable?

 

[Illuminati478]

that is the exact meaning of an outlier, a feat that the character has preformed that simply isn't consistent with the character's regular level, roshi blowing up the moon is the perfact example, how can we accept roshi being moon level when King Piccolo who is canonically stronger then Roshi, managed after powering up to max, at the cost of his life span, managed to create only a city level destruction... we would need to ignore bacically every other feat further on in the DB franchise part 1 to accept, something that isn't right by all means....

naruto is the same idea, only the fact that before and after he hadn't shown anything of the sort and neither did other characters of the sort, so its inconsistent, we can't accept inconsistencies since, as a part of their definition, they do not represent the true power of a character...

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if it severely contradicts all regular displayed levels, I think generally yes, although if this scale is repeated several times it turns more uncertain.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

that is the exact meaning of an outlier, a feat that the character has preformed that simply isn't consistent with the character's regular level, roshi blowing up the moon is the perfact example, how can we accept roshi being moon level when King Piccolo who is canonically stronger then Roshi, managed after powering up to max, at the cost of his life span, managed to create only a city level destruction... we would need to ignore bacically every other feat further on in the DB franchise part 1 to accept, something that isn't right by all means....
naruto is the same idea, only the fact that before and after he hadn't shown anything of the sort and neither did other characters of the sort, so its inconsistent, we can't accept inconsistencies since, as a part of their definition, they do not represent the true power of a character...

I understand now, but for Naruto it was different. Naruto had just got a major power up. To him it was just a new feat.

 

[Illuminati478]

no, first, for naruto there is also the possibility he reacted to madara attacking rather then to the beam of light itself, second, its way way WAY to big for it to be consistent with previous preformences, and third, later in "Naruto: The Last" he again demonstrated quad digit mach feats...

 

[Credible_Hulk]

1. Naruto went from Island level to Moon level which is way way big.

2. LS reactions and Massily Hypersonic movement would be fine. Its common here on this wiki.

3. His So6P chakra was stolen by Toneri, and Kurama was fighting a statue. Its not like Naruto was at his strongest.

 

[Illuminati478]

1. the feat was calculated as quad mach, take it as you will

2. he reacted to madara shooting it, not to the attack itself

3.you, A) can't prove he would be that much stronger using it, B) its still in consistent with the rest of the feats, to big of a jump...

 

[SwordSlayer99]

""I understand now, but for Naruto it was different. Naruto had just got a major power up. To him it was just a new feat."

Even if Madara's technique does move at the speed of light (And it doesn't) it still doesn't count as a feat for Naruto.

As seen here

Naruto dodged Madara's Light fang.

The Light Fang is used by "After combining Storm Release with natural energy, the user generates a thin stream of lightning from their mouth". Madara shot a beam and swung his head at Naruto. Naruto did not dodge the Light Fang, he dodged whenever he saw Madara swing his head.

Naruto is not LS.

 

[Credible_Hulk]

It was only one panel. It was pretty vague. I'll wait till the anime to see if he aim dodged or dodged the attack.

 

[Numbersguy]

Yes, an outlier is a feat. But it is a feat that is way above the character's league.

This is the definition made by the OBD Wiki:

"An outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power.".