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Yeah I really don’t get why this should be banned. No one here has been toxic to each other and the arguments have been concise and civil.

People bringing up abilities is either for jokes or because they are mentioning how incomplete both profiles are and the revisions that are happening. Otherwise the Sonic fans have been pretty dang chill and easy to understand. Only problem is the stinky nature of the battle which may not matter if they get upgraded. Definitely not ban worthy.
 
Is that key Wally above Sonic's Emeralds scaling chain?

Imma put them here just in case you
don't know the scaling chain.

Sonic's Emeralds Scaling Chain:

One Emerald is infinite in power

14 Emeralds can make you Low 1-C (Pre Harmony)

7 Chaos Emeralds Post Harmony contain more power than those Pre Harmony Emeralds

The Great Harmony Incident

It's stated that there's "Hundred of Thousands" Chaos Emeralds that are gathered when the incident happened


We don't know how many Emeralds are actually gathered during the Great Harmony but it's definitely a lot due to the existence of a Sea of Chaos Emeralds

So Sonic should be Massively Above Baseline Low 1-C


 
How does blitz lmao Wally outran his source of speed. Speed if equal anyway
To point out the most of debate here was about who's naturally faster.

Anyway speed is equal at the moment.


Btw, no one cares but I will change location to Coconut mall from Rainbow road cause apparently base rebirth Wally can't breathe in space.
 
Problem is that the Speed Force itself already transcends the 5D Bleed in DC cosmology by a potentially infinite degree, and Wally already has complete control of if not outright outpaced the Speed Force by Rebirth. Even on the low end Wallys scaling is way higher than a traditional 5D by a pretty ridiculous degree
 
Problem is that the Speed Force itself already transcends the 5D Bleed in DC cosmology by a potentially infinite degree, and Wally already has complete control of if not outright outpaced the Speed Force by Rebirth. Even on the low end Wallys scaling is way higher than a traditional 5D by a pretty ridiculous degree
So 6D?

This is a stomp if he's 6D. Maybe it won't when Sonic got upgraded to 6D
 
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Btw, no one cares but I will change location to Coconut mall from Rainbow road cause apparently base rebirth Wally can't breathe in space.
I don’t see why this would be the case seeing how Wally has I independently existed in areas like Black Holes or in literal voids where nothing exists, let alone oxygen, with little to no problem.

This plus the fact Pre-Crisis Barry/Wally had Oxygen generating fields to assist them in Space Travel and I don’t see why they’d just lose that ability Post-Crisis.
 
Does base wally physically still 3D or he also becomes >5D?
The faster Wally gets into the Speed Force the more he becomes inhuman in his own terms and starts transcending his own traditional form. Basically the more he becomes like the Speed Force the more he transcends traditional 3D space, so i would assume a Wally that's already absorbed could easily just be a 6D energy being

He can convert Pure Speed Force energy down to 3D space though, so he can still interact with 3D objects as he's done even cooked up with 5D+ energy.
 
Superman once blasted his lasers towards wally and wally vibrated his body to like amp does lasers and disintegrated does 5D or 6D beings(I think dey are called Quantum mechanics)
 
It probably is in all honesty, but i'm still not sure if its generally agreed that the Speed Force is 6D, so i'll wait until the other thread comes to that conclusion.

If it is i hope the 6D sonic goes through
 
How does mentioning the void against Archie Sonic in a debate, is used to prove the flash doesn’t need oxygen when Sonic and Dr. Robotnik did so casually?
Dude, he said it because they wanted to change the localization of the fight cuz ''wally cant breath in space'', but the dude proved that the flash doesnt need oxygen, it never envolved Sonic and Robotnik, I dont even know why are u talking about it
 
It probably is in all honesty, but i'm still not sure if its generally agreed that the Speed Force is 6D, so i'll wait until the other thread comes to that conclusion.

If it is i hope the 6D sonic goes through
Can i see the accepted blog cosmology?
I don't find nothing of 6D in the Profile
 
I know, it's just that Wally obviously doesn't need Oxygen outside of inconsistent areas because there are many instances where he doesn't need oxygen at all.

He can exist in voids of nothing, where there obviously isn't oxygen, so he doesn't need to breathe in space.
Well, I understand, I just don’t agree with using “existing in the void” count as supporting evidence in this debate with Archie Characters
 
Omg, it wasnt about an supporting evidence, it was just to show arguments that the localization of the fight doesnt need to change
My dumb correction: Location, not localization.

Cause localization is for example translation of something foreign (for instance, great ace attorney which was Japanese only is getting localization.)
 
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