Archie Sonic vs Wally West

[ShakeResounding]

He sees all and knows all. Plus I don't see how sonic has nigh omniscient resistance?

Sonic can create events unforseen by a force within his verse that is repeatedly stated and implied to be all-knowing, Omniscient, and precognizant. It's why Elixir said this match shouldn't happen yet if it plays that much of a factor.

 

[Teezar]

CRT for Sonic is happening right now covering that.

Send me the link.

 

[Teezar]

Sonic can create events unforseen by a force within his verse that is repeatedly stated and implied to be all-knowing, Omniscient, and precognizant. Its why Elixir said this match shouldn't happen yet if it plays that much of a factor.

I also stated this matchup is too early to be done. Like 1 week or 2 is needed to upgrade both profiles

 

[Teezar]

Can I even see the scans?if you have it.

Sonic can create events unforseen by an a force within his verse

 

[ElixirBlue]

I also stated this matchup is too early to be done. Like 1 week or 2 is needed to upgrade both profiles

Then let’s lock this thread and come back later.

Wally doesn’t even have all these Haxes.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Can I even see the scans?if you have it.

We can send one privately in a bit

We don’t want people to come to that info for the sake of downplaying out of spite. Sonic fans are too use to that

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also, sorry for derail or idk how it is speaken, but if the Omniscient force cannot understand some actions, it just means that it is Nigh-Omniscient
''
Power to know almost everything in existence. Lesser version of Omniscience.

User knows almost everything in existence while being blocked from certain details or being limited in other ways, possibly only being able to see one timeline or universe, or have just small patches of information that are missing or blocked out. Thus allowing one to keep their sense of free will and uncertainty.''

 

[Rikimarox2]

160+ replies in two hours

 

[ElixirBlue]

Also, sorry for derail or idk how it is speaken, but if the Omniscient force cannot understand some actions, it just means that it is Nigh-Omniscient
''
Power to know almost everything in existence. Lesser version of Omniscience.

User knows almost everything in existence while being blocked from certain details or being limited in other ways, possibly only being able to see one timeline or universe, or have just small patches of information that are missing or blocked out. Thus allowing one to keep their sense of free will and uncertainty.''

We’ve got that covered

 

[ShakeResounding]

Also, sorry for derail or idk how it is speaken, but if the Omniscient force cannot understand some actions, it just means that it is Nigh-Omniscient

Tell that to Thanos, who also resists Omniscience.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Tell that to Thanos, who also resists Omniscience.

Who? Thanos resisted who?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Huh? What do you mean who? Comic Thanos resists Omniscience, along with like a few other character on this site that I forgot sorry, my b. For that reason, I think it's super circumstantial.

 

[sanicspood]

resisting omniscience is pretty fodder outside ur verse

 

[Bernkastelll]

Huh? What do you mean who? Comic Thanos resists Omniscience,

Yes, I am asking Who, who is the omniscient that Thanos resisted it

 

[ShakeResounding]

Exactly. I'm not even sure why it was brought up when it doesn't even help in VS matches. @sanicspood

 

[ElixirBlue]

resisting omniscience is pretty fodder outside ur verse

Maybe. Unless someone is trying to use Omniscience as a way to win in a verse match.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

HOTU Thanos

(Thanos' technologies couldn't permanently detect his unique energy emanations before his approach to Earth, Reed Richards' technologies couldn't know what he was on that moment and Abstracts such as Master Order, Lord Chaos, Infinity and Eternity could not detect the cause of the perilous imbalance in the cosmic flow made by him, the latter stating that this to be a "truth hidden from the least to the greatest of all beings", possibly indicating that The Living Tribunal was unaware of this as well. After his advent Infinity and Eternity were "blind", only limited to gaze upon the here and now as opposed to all time and space)

 

[Bernkastelll]

HOTU Thanos

These dudes are just Nigh-Omniscient

 

[ShakeResounding]

Unless someone is trying to use Omniscience as a way to win in a verse match.

Problem is that the page literally says you can't do that. You can't use Omniscience outside of your own verse. (I know you aren't arguing this, I'm just saying in general)

 

[Theuser789]

Just going to say, that just because a match can't be added doesn't mean speed steal isn't a valid win con, only that it won't be added, it still is a valid win con

 

[Teezar]

Besides omniscient and nigh omniscience varies based on different verses.

 

[Teezar]

Yep.

Maybe. Unless someone is trying to use Omniscience as a way to win in a verse match.

Precognition is better.

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Oh no not again.

 

[Jared1111]

So I’ll be on later to give my reasonings, but one thing I gotta ask if is Super Sonic 5D or 6D?

 

[BetterThanYou]

So I’ll be on later to give my reasonings, but one thing I gotta ask if is Super Sonic 5D or 6D?

I think he is 5D

 

[sanicspood]

super sonic is 5d yes

 

[Jared1111]

One problem that comes up is the Mobius Chair is already potentially 6D, and can move and operate within 6D space no problem.

That along with scaling from Doctor Manhattan could tip Wally well over what he needs to demolish any Sonic character, let alone just Super/Ultra Sonic.

 

[ElixirBlue]

One problem that comes up is the Mobius Chair is already potentially 6D, and can move and operate within 6D space no problem.

That along with scaling from Doctor Manhattan could tip Wally well over what he needs to demolish any Sonic character, let alone just Super/Ultra Sonic.

Cool. Stomp. Close?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

This should be a banned match
Anyways, if Wally is 6D, then this is a stomp, if he’s 5D, then this is a stomp. Close this

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Ned crossed it out but i unironically agree that this should be banned

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Oh god. What are the votes?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

There's at least 2 for wally (3 actually cause I vote Wally as well)

 

[sanicspood]

dont know why wally vs sonic in general should be banned tbh

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Also for the people saying shit like "nah bro sonic's gonna get low-godly in this upcoming CRT", stop. If it's not on the profile and not accepted yet, It doesn't matter to this match.

 

[The_Smashor]

Also for the people saying shit like "nah bro sonic's gonna get low-godly in this upcoming CRT", stop. If it's not on the profile and not accepted yet, It doesn't matter to this match.

Says the person voting for a comic book character

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Says the person voting for a comic book character

Can you not. I'm voting based on what's actually on the page.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

As I said, this is a stomp no matter the way you put it

 

[The_Smashor]

Can you not. I'm voting based on what's actually on the page.

Yeah, that was the joke.

Anyways, it's not like Archie Sonic vs Wally West devolves into a flame war like Goku vs Superman. No reason to ban it. Hell, this is the first time they've been the same tier.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Yeah, but it’s still a total shitshow

 

[The_Smashor]

Not really. The debate's been pretty civilized.