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Uhm, I didnt understood cuz it seems complicated, but thanks
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Archie Sonic vs Wally West
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Thanks for clearing up my question another thread
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Let me try with terminology: "the process of making something local in character or restricting it to a particular place."
It can be not only translations but more, but translations of something Iirc is one of examples.
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We just have to wait till sonic is 6D, and then this can be fair
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Is there a cosmology blog which explains everything or are we using arguments wich aren't "accepted"?
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Can anyone show scans of Wally being 6D? Because I don't see anything 6D on his profile. All I see is that he's comparable to Doctor Manhattan and I don't really know if that guy is 5D or 6D since it only said on his profile that Mxy was afraid of him.
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And Mxy is 5D
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Sure, the explanation for Wally being 6D comes from the idea the Speed Force transcends the 5D Bleed in the DC cosmology, which would most likely put it at either a higher 5D space or most likely 6D, that and Wally/Barry were affecting the New Gods realm who are also beyond the Bleed and mimicked the Source Wall, which even at its lowest can be considered 6D and the New Gods themselves can interact within 6D Space
Mobius Chair is not much different, it can exist and interact with things on a 6D level, and the Manhattan powers were able to enhance it so it's already possible his powers were 6D already. Plus the Darkest Knight saw Wally's powers as something that he could use directly to defeat Perpetua.
So at the absolute worst on his Speed Force profile he's seen as a higher tier of 5D, unquantifiably higher, and most likely is 6D, while definitely being 6D in his Mobius Chair/Wallyhattan/Anti-Crisis Energy state.
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We know that's even higher than 6D, like 1-A, but we need see if that's accepted, we can't use non-accepted informations for versus thread. can you show us a Blog, profile that have accepted those informations as 6D? (whitin a CRT possibly)
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Trust me the 1-A feat wouldn't go through no matter what you present, so its gonna be limited to 5-6D at best no matter how you switch it
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I was talking in general, btw maybe a day it can be accepted. tho, the problem now is 6D, is that accepted? it's good even if it's accepted in another profile, the important is that it's accepted.
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Cause we all know how this wiki is. They don't follow 100% credibility .
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This still going on? I think Archie takes it tbh since it's base Wally, Ultra Sonic and fate hax go brr
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Wally 6D has not yet been accepted so it cannot be considered here.
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It wasn't? I've seen people on this thread saying Wally is 6D in AP.
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I mean, a CRT hasn't been done about it yet, so the VSB by default still doesn't consider Wally to be 6D.
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? Speed force is beyond the 5-D bleed already accepted
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Above baseline, not 6D.
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DC treats it as higher dimensional, anyways, already is accepted
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This thread is a necro, it’s been over 3 months since the last message (which was in May) Can someone close this?
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Wait, does Wally equal the Speed Force?
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Rebirth one surpassed Speed Force. So, Wally now > Speed Force.
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that's cause Bart goated
aanyway this is a necro thread.
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So Speed Force is source of his speed and he outsped it?
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Yeah basically
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I mean, Sonic's power surpassed the Chaos Force, yet Super Sonic is still a 3D being with 5D invulnerability.
Does surpassing the Speed Force in speed mean Wally's body dimensionality equal it?
Does surpassing the Speed Force in speed mean Wally's body dimensionality equal it?
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Personally I don't think it does but not sure how the wiki treats it as
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No matter what his still 3D by nature just connected to a higher-D construct that scales above 5D bleed-space tho. Will prolly be worked on in the up coming revision.
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It ain't really an outlier if the entire point was that it was at his strongest and he was pushing myself beyond any speed he had ever gone before.
An outlier is when someone manages to perform a feat that doesn't make sense for their normally established skillset, but Wally was going beyond anything he had done before, which was already at 5D anyway.
I'm not saying it's a strange feat, but it's not like Wally has never gone beyond what's possible before, like with his Manhattan Powers upgrades or with the Mobius Chair.
(Besides we start arguing about being stronger than your power source, i guess we gotta downgrade Archie Sonic since him blowing up the Chaos Force is about as stupid in context.)
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This should be closed if Wally is infinitely stronger
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6D*
Most of his most powerful feats are 6D*
He blew up the chaos force?how?
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