Darkseid vs Metal Sonic

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Darkseid (Emanation) vs Super Neo Metal Sonic

Speed equalized

Location: Angel Island

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Uhhhh, link to Metal's profile?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Ah. added.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Can Darkseid even hurt Super Neo Metal Sonic? He has that cracked Invulnerability, not to mention he'll just be copying Darkseid's powers the whole time just from him being attacked by him.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Not with brute force, but he apparently has quite a few abilities Metal doesn't resist.

Technology Manipulation (His Omega powers can tamper with advanced technology)
Deconstruction (Incinerated Kalibak's flesh by touching him)
Power Nullification (Removed Bouncing Boy's power)
Paralysis Inducement, Information Analysis (Paralyzed Infinity Man and probed for his weakness[23])

Transmutation (Changed Miracle Mister Soap to mud[22]Can easily break the fusion of different beings[23])

Petrification (Turned Slo-bo to stone[24])

Matter Manipulation (Dissipated Wildfire's energy form in quanta. Can fire energy blasts tuned to his target's molecular structure to inflict the most damage[11])
BFR (The Omega beams are capable of teleporting people[11] Can also utilize boom tubes to teleport people[17])

(Super Neo's Range is currently Universal+ whereas Darkseid's is Low Multi)

 

[Theuser789]

Not with brute force, but he apparently has quite a few abilities Metal doesn't resist.






(Super Neo's Range is currently Universal+ whereas Darkseid's is Low Multi)

Metal resists all of those except power null with Sonic and Shadow's bio-data.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Saw Darkseid's 1-B key and nearly shit myself lol. Is any of Darkseid's hax smurf in nature stemming from his Godhood?

Super Neo has a few advantages here:

• Bio-Data Copy, granting Neo Metal access to abilities Darkseid's avatar has and the knowledge to use them.
• Invulnerability (This makes up for having a humongous AP disadvantage, 12 Uni vs 52 Uni)
• Resists many of Darkseid's more useful abilities
  • This includes Info Analysis, Erasure, Time Manip, Matter Manip, Soul Manip (has no soul), Transmutation, Petrification, Tech Manip, and Death Manip.
• Can return from BFR with a Chaos Emerald and Chaos Control (Metal's range is outdated afaik)
• Infinite Stamina

Darkseid isn't without his advantages as well:

• Mighty AP advantage (52 Uni vs 12 Uni, meaning Neo's physical attacks will do zilch)
• Might be able to probe Neo for info via telepathy (Not sure to what extent information is given and I have no idea if it works on mechanical beings)
• Potentially Absorption? (While it states Darkseid can absorb energy on a planetary scale, even a single Chaos Emerald is said to have infinite energy. Not sure how that'd interact)
• Power Nullification (Removing powers, and likely the biggest threat to Neo)
• Possibly more intelligent?

I think Neo's Resistance to Info Analysis saves Metal from Darkseid just immediately using something Neo doesn't resist, then he copies Darkseid's avatar.

 

[Robo432343]

Darkseid has 1-A immortality
but that doesn't stop him from getting copied ngl

 

[ShakeResounding]

Darkseid has 1-A immortality

That doesn't stop Neo from repeatedly killing his avatar and leaving him helpless, matches where that happens is counted as a win for the aggressor against the immortal IF the aggressor can consistently put the Avatar of the immortal down

 

[Robo432343]

That doesn't stop Neo from repeatedly killing his avatar and leaving him helpless, matches where that happens is counted as a win for the aggressor against the immortal IF the aggressor can consistently put the Avatar down

ye

 

[ShakeResounding]

ye

Oh you were just elaborating. Thanks then, I had no idea 1-A Immortality as a 1-B is nasty work

Any knowledge if some of Darkseid's hax is smurfed?

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Saw Darkseid's 1-B key and nearly shit myself lol. Is any of Darkseid's hax smurf in nature stemming from his Godhood?

I want to say he's a smurf, but I actually don't know. The actual DC supporters probably know more.

 

[Eseseso]

Saw Darkseid's 1-B key and nearly shit myself lol. Is any of Darkseid's hax smurf in nature stemming from his Godhood?

Super Neo has a few advantages here:

• Bio-Data Copy, granting Neo Metal access to abilities Darkseid's avatar has and the knowledge to use them.
• Invulnerability (This makes up for having a humongous AP disadvantage, 12 Uni vs 52 Uni)
• Resists many of Darkseid's more useful abilities
  • This includes Info Analysis, Erasure, Time Manip, Matter Manip, Soul Manip (has no soul), Transmutation, Petrification, Tech Manip, and Death Manip.
• Can return from BFR with a Chaos Emerald and Chaos Control (Metal's range is outdated afaik)
• Infinite Stamina

Darkseid isn't without his advantages as well:

• Mighty AP advantage (52 Uni vs 12 Uni, meaning Neo's physical attacks will do zilch)
• Might be able to probe Neo for info via telepathy (Not sure to what extent information is given and I have no idea if it works on mechanical beings)
• Potentially Absorption? (While it states Darkseid can absorb energy on a planetary scale, even a single Chaos Emerald is said to have infinite energy. Not sure how that'd interact)
• Power Nullification (Removing powers, and likely the biggest threat to Neo)
• Possibly more intelligent?

I think Neo's Resistance to Info Analysis saves Metal from Darkseid just immediately using something Neo doesn't resist, then he copies Darkseid's avatar.

His immortality type 9 is smurf but not sure if he has any other smurf hax.

But does Neo have the concept/info hax that most Super Forms have or no?

 

[Chariot190]

Does invulnerability work against gaps like that? Standards change constantly but do we not treat each uni as like an infinite jump?
hence why beerus and champa being half of 2-C back in the day wasnt rectified by just getting a 2x boost.

I really don't think invul is stopping a gap like that without an extreme NLF. Copying to bridge the gap (assuming he can bridge multiple infinites like that) should be fine but from the start I don't think that's very good an argument.

 

[Theuser789]

I think invulnerability saves you unless it's a dimensional gap, I think.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Copying to bridge the gap (assuming he can bridge multiple infinites like that)

In Metal's prior stint as Neo in the Adventure Era, his copying eventually got him to his 1-C key

 

[Chariot190]

In Metal's prior stint as Neo in the Adventure Era, his copying eventually got him to his 1-C key

How many copies did that take?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

His immortality type 9 is smurf but not sure if he has any other smurf hax.

But does Neo have the concept/info hax that most Super Forms have or no?

Not a full power Super Form, so no.

 

[Omegabronic]

How many copies did that take?

12 4-B chars and 1 Low 2-C char

 

[Chariot190]

12 4-B chars and 1 Low 2-C char

So not one

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

12 4-B chars and 1 Low 2-C char

*2‐C
Potentially 1-C soon

 

[Causalist]

I think Neo's Resistance to Info Analysis saves Metal from Darkseid just immediately using something Neo doesn't resist, then he copies Darkseid's avatar.

Yooooo my CRT saved his ass. Love it when that happens. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Darkseid's info analysis is smurfed or layered, so I'll wait for the DC supporters

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Darkside's 1-A immortality is from his type 8, not the type 9, which is tied to this dude

His BFR should be Smurf, because the Boom Tubes can take you from Earth to the Gods' sphere, he could hit Superboy (not Prime) pre-Crisis, return him to his time even when both were in the post-Crisis era

by Planetary absorption, refers to range, Darkside can drink the power of guys like the Mordru and Time trapper who are 52 universes, so stole Neo Metal energy is not dificult

I don't know why Darkseid doesn't have a Tabber with the anti-life equation, he does have the thing at various times but whatever

idk who wins

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[Tyranno223]

If Neo can copy Darkseid, I vote for him since he'd have Darkseid's AP and other relevant stuff (minus 1-A material I guess) on top of his own abilities.

Otherwise, Darkseid via BFR or power absorption.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

This is basically a game of who can use their hax first.
Nearly shat my pants when I seen 1-C vs 1-B.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

Well, from what I gather, Darkseid's inability to analyze Super Neo means the chances of him opening with something to eliminate/incapacitate the Super Badnik is fairly low (Power Null, potentially Absorption, and maybe Telepathy are the things that his Avatar can do that would work).

The way I see it:

• Darkseid attacks Super Neo.
• Super Neo copies his Biodata
• Super Neo gains his abilities (minus the smurf stuff) and knowledge of those abilities to best use them.
  • Due to gaining the knowledge of Darkseid's abilities, he'll know the ins-and-outs of what makes Darkseid most dangerous.
• Darkseid's abilities are now Neo's own, and gets a substantial AP buff.
  • This extends to copying Darkseid's intellect as well.

I'm gonna vote Super Neo via power mimicry and knowledge of Darkseid post-bio copy, essentially allowing him to know of and spawn-kill the Avatars as a repeated incap.

 

[Causalist]

Super Neo FRA, but this feels wrong lol

 

[Arkansalter2]

Super Neo FRA

 

[OrangeFR]

I still can’t believe DC is this cooked (Neo metal wins)

 

[Omegabronic]

neo metal starfish fra

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Bump
Neo Metal FRA, ig

 

[McFriesGuy075]

New medal fra

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

That's grace, I think