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Speed is equalized
TPU Mechi is used (his strongest key)
Let's go!
Mechikabura:
Solaris (Archie Comics):
TPU Mechi is used (his strongest key)
Let's go!
Mechikabura:
Solaris (Archie Comics):
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Archie Solaris vs Mechikabura
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What does Mechika lead with?
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Grand Priest probably one-shots Mechikabura with zero effort, to be honest.
But he leads with passive absorption or something.
But he leads with passive absorption or something.
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He absorbs the multiverse just by standing there.
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? So does Solaris. Huh. Well, “consume” is the word they used.
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Mechi has a black hole inside him that absorbs every timeline in the multiverse along with everything else and it all gets sealed in a void inside his body.
Don't know about Solaris.
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Don't know shit about Sonic, but doesn't that just mean he will destroy/consume any timeline he comes across, but not passively? Unlike Mechi, whose mere existence is passively absorbing everything.
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Yeah, I agree. Solaris is not passive, but I'm not sure how much passive and manual will factor in this fight. When they pretty do the same thing.
Except, Mechi doesn't have Acausality type 3 and Low Godly Regen, unlike Solaris.
Except, Mechi doesn't have Acausality type 3 and Low Godly Regen, unlike Solaris.
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Pretty sure DB Multiverse is baseline in size while Archie is a bit bigger than that.
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DBH is going to get a range upgrade,probably. I was planning to do in these days but i completely forgot.
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It will help, since again, Solaris does the same thing to Mechi, and Mechi doesn't have Type 3 that fought Super Sonic who can destroy Space and Time himself.
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I think you misunderstood what he tried to say.
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Probably yes
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Bump
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Bump
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I mean, is the Archie verse bigger than baseline 2-A? If so, does Solaris exist in every time line there?
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I think it's 2x or 3x baseline because of Maginaryworld. This match should wait since DBH cosmology also needs to be revisited
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Well, I guess its better that we wait then.
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Oh, sorry.
What makes Mechi have more range and what makes Type 3 Acausality useless is that the DB Multiverse has infinite timelines and 12 to 18 universes per timeline, but also has the Many Worlds Interpretation stacked on top of it so it's 2 * countless * infinite and Mechikabura passively absorbed the entirety of that multiverse.
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Except for that's untrue, it ONLY has Infinite Timelines. Neither the 12-18 Universe nor Many Worlds stacks with the Infinite as said by staff in a Thread in the old Forum that was trying to gauge the size of the DBH Multiverse.
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I believe that was only in the context of scaling AP. Judging from the discussion that happened from the Madoka vs Yogiri match, range should still be fair game.
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Nope, Range as well is nothing beyond base Infinity. Each Universe having their own infinite timelines was never accepted, and the Many Worlds would not give any boost beyond base Infinity.
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Everything12 is actually right here.
Anyways I want this match to be valuable and I would need to post the Range upgrade thread for Xenoverse/Heroes which I have ready. Thought I don't know if I can do that. I will try regardless.
Anyways I want this match to be valuable and I would need to post the Range upgrade thread for Xenoverse/Heroes which I have ready. Thought I don't know if I can do that. I will try regardless.
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I honestly don't know but the profile doesn't say anything about that.
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Multiverse level+ (Was going to devour all of space-time within the Pre-Genesis Multiverse, which contains infinite universes)
The entire Archieverse, as Solaris still has the same goal as the game counterpart, but just taking place in a different cosmetology.
The entire Archieverse, as Solaris still has the same goal as the game counterpart, but just taking place in a different cosmetology.
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Coming back here to clarify, at least from what I understood from some research.
Archie Sonic cosmology is 2x baseline since MaginaryWorld, unlike its game version, is part of the multiverse. But it encompasses both Megaman and Sonic's multiverses hence why it's 2x baseline.
Archie Sonic cosmology is 2x baseline since MaginaryWorld, unlike its game version, is part of the multiverse. But it encompasses both Megaman and Sonic's multiverses hence why it's 2x baseline.
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Er, I guess. It's up in the air if MaginaryWorld also included Megaman's Multiverse or not. Likely not, since Super Sonic destoryed his Multiverse along with the MaginaryWorld when trying to reset it(thanks Eggman), while Super Megaman succeeded.
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solaris really doesn't have anything to prevent him from getting absorbed from the start , type 3 acausality is useless in this case , mechi takes this
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I doubt Mecha's absorption was instant and you have to prove "type 3 acausality is useless" when Archie Solaris gave Archie Super Sonic a hard fight.
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It's pretty self explanatory, that type of acausality is completely useless when every timeline is gonna get absorbed anyway , and the way i see it him giving archie sonic a hard time is also irrelevant to this cuz he doesn't have passive absorption
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Here's how the absorption is depicted in the manga.
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Here's how the absorption is depicted in the manga.
So, it's not instantly absorbing the timeline, from what I'm seeing from those panels.
Type 3 Acausality is, when Mecha absorbs 1 version of Solaris, many, many more will be around to continue attacking Mecha.
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no it's instantaneous, in the next chapter chronoa says that he absorbed " all of time " .
and i don't know why u assumed it requires charging he just raised his hand absorbed everything , type 3 acausality or not , all of them are getting absorbed regardless.
Also before anyone says '' well he can attack him while he's rasing his hand " i'd like to remind you that speed is equalized , solaris is getting absorbed.
i wanted to post the panel but i don't know how , can any1 show me ?
and i don't know why u assumed it requires charging he just raised his hand absorbed everything , type 3 acausality or not , all of them are getting absorbed regardless.
Also before anyone says '' well he can attack him while he's rasing his hand " i'd like to remind you that speed is equalized , solaris is getting absorbed.
i wanted to post the panel but i don't know how , can any1 show me ?
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Dialouge is happening as that attack is being preformed. How is that instantaneous? People shouldn't be reacting in that double spread if it was instantaneous.
Also, he is clearing activating it while talking to someone. Probably not a good scan to show it being passive.
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also correct me if i'm wrong but does solaris exist simultaneously in past present and future across all timelines or just 1.
cuz i think he only exists in one , his profile said he was gonna collapse all timelines or smt like that
cuz i think he only exists in one , his profile said he was gonna collapse all timelines or smt like that
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oh wait you're talking about the time it takes charging the orb , i thought you meant it takes time to start absorbing upon activation , My bad .
so just to clear a little misunderstanding , the manga and game version of his absorbtion are different .
In the game the absorption is based on his existence , its not being activated like in the manga, it's already activated before he absorbs the power of the orb .
that's what was said in a previous MEchi thread .
so just to clear a little misunderstanding , the manga and game version of his absorbtion are different .
In the game the absorption is based on his existence , its not being activated like in the manga, it's already activated before he absorbs the power of the orb .
that's what was said in a previous MEchi thread .
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