Arceus' Speed

[MirthfulDoggedness]

On a thread, LordAizensama brought up a point about Arceus. Since Arceus transcends the concept of space-time, and the fact he casually stomped on the Creation Trio. I must know, shouldn't Arceus be "Likely Omnipresential", due to these two facts?

EDIT: "Likely Omnipresential" is not a good way of placing a measurement. How does "Possibly Omnipresential" sound?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

The creation trio were sealed so he wouldn't be omnipresent by that, and transcending space-time does not fit the requirements of omnipresence.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Possibly within his own realm but he's pretty vague though

 

[MirthfulDoggedness]

Ahh. But then there's the issue of predating the universes, and I do not know the specifics, but if the Creation Trio are likely omnipresential due to what they embody. Wouldn't transcending those universe(s) constraints of time and space actually account to something?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Ahh. But then there's the issue of predating the universes, and I do not know the specifics, but if the Creation Trio are likely omnipresential due to what they embody. Wouldn't transcending those universe(s) constraints of time and space actually account to something?

4 dimensional being. Immeasurable speed. Not omnipresence.

 

[MirthfulDoggedness]

Ahh. But then there's the issue of predating the universes, and I do not know the specifics, but if the Creation Trio are likely omnipresential due to what they embody. Wouldn't transcending those universe(s) constraints of time and space actually account to something?

4 dimensional being. Immeasurable speed. Not omnipresence.

Very well. May this thread stay open in case anyone else wants to give a word on it?

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

If it helps we should get better feats and his primal form with creation trio when diamond and pearl get remakes soon.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Of course. @MirthfulDoggedness

 

[MirthfulDoggedness]

If it helps we should get better feats and his primal form with creation trio when diamond and pearl get remakes soon.

A Primal Arceus would be a nightmare in a battle. Considering its pure stats at base.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Even in incomplete state he's op so yeah.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Arceus' immeasurable >>> Palkia and Dialga's omnipresence. The problem here is tha a being who is immeasurable on a higher layer of reality is faster than a being who is omnipresent on a lower layer, though these can be hard to differentiate between profiles.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Arceus' immeasurable >>> Palkia and Dialga's omnipresence. The problem here is tha a being who is immeasurable on a higher layer of reality is faster than a being who is omnipresent on a lower layer, though these can be hard to differentiate between profiles.

Yeah, I asked you before. Why is Arceus 4-D when he was stated to exist on a higher plane of existence than the creation trio who in turn exist outside the universe.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yeah, I asked you before. Why is Arceus 4-D when he was stated to exist on a higher plane of existence than the creation trio who in turn exist outside the universe.

Because the universe is a 4-D construct. Existing outside of it does not mean you are >4-D. Just that you are at least 4-D, similar to hos many 2-D constructs can exist in a 3-D construct, but a stronger 3-D construct can exist outside the previously mentioned 3-D construct.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Btw shouldn't Arceus be able to utilize all pokemon moves? Like they're are mind ,spiritual and many haxxes pokemons have?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Ah. I see.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Btw shouldn't Arceus be able to utilize all pokemon moves? Like they're are mind ,spiritual and many haxxes pokemons have?

Likely, yes. Similar to how his plates let him neutralize anything of his own creation.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Likely, yes. Similar to how his plates let him neutralize anything of his own creation.

Not only that but they can form the elements like the jewel of life did.Arceus also had plates to nullify space and time moves and likely used the same to create dialga and Palkia just a theory but it's what comes to mind that or he merges all the plates into one to form so op thing.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Don't go off topic.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Well, it seems no one has anything relevant to the topic to add so I suppose it's safe to close this.