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Arceus Low 1-C Hax Upgrade
- Thread starter ProfessorKukui4Life
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I assume he's gonna be like Low-Mid to Mid tier. Though his ridiculous amount of "State-of-Being" abilities may keep him higher. Skimmed some Fate profiles with the help of a friend who's really into the series'. Far as I can tell, the Low 1-C's in Fate can stalemate at best, getting stuck at both Aca5 and TD2.
Pikaman
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Well if that was the assumption made with Arceus we wouldn’t need to make this CRT lmao
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Isn't that like resistance negation?
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Oh, so copium. Got it.
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Don't they have like 6D level stuff?
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This was only made because no one wanted a pokémon to stomp on Archie sonic and enejrak
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So...yes?
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I don't understand this
So you're saying them having 6D hax won't help because Arceus being nigh unkillable and haxable and Arceus can't effect them because they resist some 6D level hax that Arceus has?
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I'm saying that, to my understanding of how the abilities work, some of Arceus' "State-of-Being" hax allows it to say "no" to get interacted with by them, even at higher dimensional levels. And that Arceus can't interact back, because its hax is only 5D. So, stalemate. Though I am not 100% on this.
EDIT: Y'know, I'mma ask a Q&A about this.
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They're still physically 5D
They only resist the hax that are thrown at them at a 6D level
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They're still physically 5D
They only resist the hax that are thrown at them at a 6D level
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Sniper670
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I'll do that once this crt gets through
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good luck with that. It's the one topic i'll stay neutral on since even i ain't sure if you'll be in luck
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How did this get 2 pages with so many agreements?
Agree.
Agree.
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For what?
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Oh God we're gonna have to make another CRT on Arceus hax...
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How would it be more than 2 layers? 2 layers is already "Infinite infinities" above. It's the same conceptual difference as the difference between a 10-B and a 2-A.
Sniper670
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What are you even talking about.... I'm referring to hax
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Oh, I thought you were talking about layers of reality. Anyway, now that llama is on a higher dimensional tier than the rest of the 'verse, there is nothing to layer from. Closest thing it gets is res neg. Everything below it, that might cause layers, comes from using 0% of its power. No feats of layering at, or above, 5D. Which it needs to get layered hax.
Hasty12345
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Surely you guys can take this derailment to the general thread?
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they can. Either way its all over
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I disagree with this. I see nothing here beyond simply Arceus having Tier 1 power.
Fighting in his dimension is irrelevant, as you can be in a dimension like that without being a higher tier and similarly bring people there. Like, obviously the beings you fight there aren't Tier 1 themselves.
Everything else is about power and energy, but power and energy are irrelevant for hax potency.
This is basically just attempting to scale hax potency from power, which is something we don't do.
Fighting in his dimension is irrelevant, as you can be in a dimension like that without being a higher tier and similarly bring people there. Like, obviously the beings you fight there aren't Tier 1 themselves.
Everything else is about power and energy, but power and energy are irrelevant for hax potency.
This is basically just attempting to scale hax potency from power, which is something we don't do.
Hasty12345
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You spoke too soon by the looks of it
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I mean the Eternal Battle Reverie can have all Pokémon in Arceus’s realm as Arceus’s Pokemon so shouldn’t his abilities keep their layers
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Also like how OP just doesn't count disagreements because he doesn't like the reasons. Prime example of honest Pokémon debating.
@ProfessorKukui4Life: Either don't make a vote count or count votes properly. I don't want to see you filter votes by whether you agree with them in the future. Consider that an official warning.
@ProfessorKukui4Life: Either don't make a vote count or count votes properly. I don't want to see you filter votes by whether you agree with them in the future. Consider that an official warning.
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