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He DID do it though...
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AP vs Hax: Mewtwo VS. Infinite
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M8zDzD90zQ - No clones against Sonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu_nqhw0Tc8 - No clones against Avatar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPM5FGZNlao - No clones against Sonic and Avatar working together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu_nqhw0Tc8 - No clones against Avatar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPM5FGZNlao - No clones against Sonic and Avatar working together
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by the way though... why doesn't infinite have fear manipulation and abstract existence like Odio? Thats clearly what he was doing against the Avatar man.
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>Abstract Existence
huh
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type 2
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huh
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bah my point is that he feeds on fear... his powersource has limited fuel from it which feeds his powers.. like when he created that sun
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This is mewtwo vs infinite.. not infinite vs the world. If Infinite was against Mewtwo he'd have no reason to hold back and cause fear. Or are we assuming Infinite has no warning that he's going into a literal death battle?
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further does MEWTWO even lead with mindhax? Thats gotta be bad conversation starter. Hi Mewtwo *mindhaxed*
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by the way X or Y... which is it? or is there a profile for megamewtwo normal?
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Infinite feeding on fear is headcanon that isn't backed up by anything. Adn you're right, he has no warning, because standard battle assumptions have no prep time.
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I'm saying if mewtwo walked up to him in battle stance he'd know he's fighting mewtwo and prepare some clones to fight mewtwo... like he did the first time he saw Sonic...
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Doesn't eggman explain that the phantom ruby feeds on fear?
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Which is directly contradicted by his fights.Juron Pilo said:
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Can't confirm, but there isn't anything on the sonic wiki about it. The phantom ruby has its own power source in any case.Juron Pilo said:
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not his first fight though. the one in which he is introduced... and I just explained why he didn't in the folllowing fights.
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the phantom ruby is powered by emotions. Listen to tails too. Courage and heroism can activate the phantom ruby
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No you didn't.Juron Pilo said:
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Is that so? That sort of hurts your argument then, considering Mewtwo is generally a pretty stoic guy. And this is all assuming that people around infinite being emotional buffs it, which isn't even true. If you think it is then by all means make a CRT for it, but keep that separate from this thread.Juron Pilo said:
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how didn't I? more proof: Infinite himself says he can "taste your fear".
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Infinite was threatening the entire world with it though. It doesn't even need to be near someone to do it. Thats why his army was so unstoppable. Because it caused a chain reaction of fear.
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for infinite it only worked with fear. Why would it hurt my argument? I'm not using the fear to fight but to explain where the ruby got its power. The clones energy would defeat him not draining mewtwo.
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Do you have a scan explaining that the fear wasn't a metaphor?
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Besides Eggman, the scene with Tails makes it pretty clear. Tails told him that "his courage" would activate the phantom ruby. Then he tried just that and it worked. Case Closed?
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If you really think Infinite doesn't use fear.. why would he be so stupid as to try so hard to scare The Avatar? That's nonsense.
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This "Find the statement that says it isn't a metaphor" doesn't hold up when its the running theme of the whole episode. Many many scenes say fear all over them. I could probably find an army of scenes saying fear, afraid, terrified, etc in the game. Its all over the work.
Why not use that argument against Frisk's reset powers. Theres only the scenes with Asriel and Flowey that directly reference reset. And Frisk wasn't doing it. Doesn't mean there isn't subtext everywhere and quite frankly like I said they say it objectively in the show.
Edit: Sorry for still talking but stop being a straw vulcan. It is everywhere in Sonic Forces. Subtext exists!
Why not use that argument against Frisk's reset powers. Theres only the scenes with Asriel and Flowey that directly reference reset. And Frisk wasn't doing it. Doesn't mean there isn't subtext everywhere and quite frankly like I said they say it objectively in the show.
Edit: Sorry for still talking but stop being a straw vulcan. It is everywhere in Sonic Forces. Subtext exists!
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Theme isn't evidence for powerset.
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Objective evidence has been mentioned. The Tails scene say it succinctly and quite frankly this whole thing is a tangent just like mentioned Straw Vulcan trope. How does any of this defeat my argument that Infinte has and can use the strategy of cloning argument?
Why not say Infinite has only a 10% chance of using that tactic?! This whole thing has been a derailing of my argument. Thing is Infinite is much smarter than your giving him credit for.
Why not say Infinite has only a 10% chance of using that tactic?! This whole thing has been a derailing of my argument. Thing is Infinite is much smarter than your giving him credit for.
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Sigh. Just to list another argument:
Why can't he disrupt the hax by shooting a flurry of homing shot energy constructs? Mind control generally takes concentration. Jumping right to hax has the habit of being overpowered by your opponent. Mewtwo has been defeated by exactly that strategy.
Why can't he disrupt the hax by shooting a flurry of homing shot energy constructs? Mind control generally takes concentration. Jumping right to hax has the habit of being overpowered by your opponent. Mewtwo has been defeated by exactly that strategy.
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Nice tryZephyrosOmega said:
Infinite used clones the first time he fought Sonic, he wasn't expecting to fight him in Mystic Jungle, but he does clone himself in the fight
His clones were fighting the rest of the resistance in Metropolis, the Avatar was a stragler
His clones were busy fighting the rest of the cast in a big army, so nice try but he uses clones
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I still think he should have fear manipulation. What do we call fear effects that hinge on absorbing fear as an energy anyways? Lots of villains do it but its hard for me to find more than a few who have it on their pages.
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To be clear: theres tons of evidence of him using fear to power his constructs. But little of him actually inducing fear in others supernaturally. Its either beyond his abilities or not strong enough to overcome the good guys defenses. Its fuel not a manipulation. If I make a page what do I call it? Similarly hes not quite a personification of fear but he does use it through the nonsentient phantom ruby.
edit: thread not page.
edit: thread not page.
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Congratulations, you just proved my point. When Infinite fights 1 on 1, he doesn't send other characters at them. Sonic was the outlier because Infinite was trying to, yknow, destroy the hero of the worldTheuser789 said:
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We're assuming he's ready to kill. How is it not arguable that he will use deadly force?
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Because assuming he busts out clones contradicts his actual showings.
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Except that it doesn't. We've mentioned several times that he did exactly that.
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Times that don't apply here, that i've proven to you but you seem to have ignored.
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Your assuming you know the mind of Infinite? How elaborate how you think he'll open if your so smart?
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Yo guy, don't make things hostile
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Sorry but it stands to reason his argument is invalidated unless he can present a reason Infinite would fight like... whatever he's supposed to be fighting like.
Really, sorry.
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