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Another Epic Battle Fantasy revision

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As this calc was accepted, a good amount of tiers have to be changed.

My proposal is to rate Akron and anyone who scales from him as "At least High 4-C, possibly up to 3-A". The reason is that in my calc, i ignored all of the celestial bodies in the background due to this statement. Howewer, this statement only makes their presence a possibility instead of a certainty, it doesn't outright states that the celestial bodies aren't here.

The black hole is High 4-C if we use the lowball radius, 4-B if we consider Saturn's presence inside of it, 4-A if we consider it to be Solar System sized (keep in mind that the mass-energy conversion was accepted), and 3-B if we count the constellations. Also Akron stated that destroying a universe isn't as impressive as killing a God like himself, so 3-A.

Matt, Natz, Lance and Nolegs scales because they killed Akron, and Anna scales from them.

The avatars of Godcat should be "At least 4-B, possibly up to 3-A".

The reasoning is that being just twice as powerful as Akron is enough to be baseline 4-B, and the avatars are able to effortlessly stomp the Players even while their form is unstable. Godcat even states that their strenght is only a fraction of her own.

Everyone is able to damage intangible enemies with magical attacks, like the Skull Ghosts .

Finally, BH2 Akron and the people who scale from him should be changed to "At least 4-B to 4-A, possibly up to 3-A" because he obviously scales from his previous weaker form.
 
Since AN is okay with the calc, I'm fine with the upgrades/downgrades.

I think the party be EoG EBF4 should probably be 4-B as well, since they should be at least twice as strong as before and defeated the Creator and Destroyer, who should vastly superior to Akron.

Being able to hit intangible enemies with magic with magic makes sense.

Wouldn't he just be "At least 4-B, possibly up to 3-A"? Although, warping the center of the galaxy is probably a 4-A feat so I dunno.
 
I agree with EoG EBF4 party being 4-B.

Basically the issue is that if he used mass-energy again it would be 4-A, otherwise he'd be 4-B. I'm fine if we rate him as "At least 4-B, possibly up to 3-A" though.

Another thing that we should probably do is removing any stat justification which mentions the Dark Players, because they aren't canon.

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Rewatching the level, he apparently only affected a pre-existing black hole, he hasn't created a new one. So yeah, "4-B, possibly up to 3-A" is the best choice
 
Now that I think about it, we should probably edit the "Power of the Verse" section, it remained as it was when everyone was 5-A
 
Do you think we should rate Brawl Royale Matt as FTL instead of "unknown, possibly FTL"? Considering that the information would arrive to the robot at the speed of light (as it's optical) and that it was unable to even start elaborating it, this would be a lightspeed feat, and the successive opponents should be faster to a degree.
 
Can we give Anti-Magic Power Nullification to Godcat's avatars? The beam casted by the Creator when it charges up inflicts Syphon as a side effect.
 
New reasoning for everyone's dura should be that they can survive the attacks whose AoE is as big as the battlefield, meaning that their AP= their durability.

To summarize we would have:

At least High 4-C, possibly up to 3-A, for Akron, Matt, Lance, Natz Nolegs and BoG EBF4 Anna. Adding a note saying "While the size of the black hole is unkown, it's hinted that it could be far bigger than what was calculated, to the point where it could reach 3-B attack potency, hence why Akron is rated as "At least High 4-C, possibly up to 3-A"".

At least 4-B, possibly up to 3-A, for Anna, the Avatars and all the EoG EBF4 party. Probably gonna need a note on Godcat's profile that explains that she is 4-B because she needs to be only twice as powerful as Akron to reach Solar System level and she is easily beyond that.

At least 4-B, possibly up to 3-A for everyone in BH2, reasoning being that BH2 Akron is>> Avatars who are >>>>>> EBF3 Akron.
 
@Dark

Anti-magic for the avatars + what I wrote in the summary is ok for you?
 
Okay. I'll perform the edits when I get home then (in a few hours)
 
@Dark I have accidentally cancelled Godcat's images, can you put them back? I don't know how to do it
 
Done.

All you have to do is go into the pages history, go to a revision when the images are still there, go into the classic editor, copy/paste the tabber code and paste it into the editor.
 
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