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The level of argument, the back and forth. There is always a level or undercurrent of ambiguity in DB. Always has been. For instance, we know that 17 got stronger by the end, but by how much is subject to debate as seen here.
It was the same thing back in the Goku vs Vegeta thread. There was a lot of talk on if Vegeta was stronger than Goku at that point, even if by a small amount. Both had been been on par when they pressured Jiren together but eventually Vegeta had beaten GoD Toppo and Goku hadn't had as impressive of a showing at that point by some's reckoning.
Hopefully, this thread doesn't take a month to complete, however.
The level of argument, the back and forth. There is always a level or undercurrent of ambiguity in DB. Always has been. For instance, we know that 17 got stronger by the end, but by how much is subject to debate as seen here.
It was the same thing back in the Goku vs Vegeta thread. There was a lot of talk on if Vegeta was stronger than Goku at that point, even if by a small amount. Both had been been on par when they pressured Jiren together but eventually Vegeta had beaten GoD Toppo and Goku hadn't had as impressive of a showing at that point by some's reckoning.
Hopefully, this thread doesn't take a month to complete, however.