An Imp Attempts to Break Out of Prison

[Bedroombedrock]

Was gonna make Coil vs Diavolo but i became aware that we do, in fact, have a Jail House Lock profile.

And since I've made it my personal goal to bring Worm into the spotlight the only way i know how, by spamming matches with Worm Characters vs Popular verses.

So I present to you all my 4th(?) Worm vs JoJo matchup. (Still Haven't finished Worm)

Imp (Parahumans) vs Jail House Lock (I'm too lazy to memorize her weird miu miu name)

Story: During their fight with Dragon after infiltrating the Wards headquarter Aisha gets caught in some containment foam Dragon blasted at her with her mech she is arrested. But instead of being sent to the birdcage she is instead sent to a seemingly normal Prison in Florida called Green Dolphin State Prison. "Heh, what a bunch of morons, who thought to send me here? No problem, it should be a piece of cake to escape with my ability, i feel bad for the guy who made the mistake of sending me here" Emporio overhearing this, intercepts her on the way to the Cafeteria, "I know this seems like a normal prison but there are alot of people with abilities in this prison, alot of which theoretically should have let them escape easily" says Emporio, "But not 1 person in the history of this prison, has ever been able to make it past the visitation room and escape this prison, whoever is stopping even superpowered people from leaving this prison at the visitation room, is the True Gaurd of this Prison". "Whatever" says Aisha "with my ability i won't even have to fight said gaurd" and she proceeded to bypass all of the prisons security systems using her ability, and once she finally reaches the visitation room she briefly stops and looks around for said gaurd of the prison. Miu Miu having been alerted by the PRT that a dangerous villain will most likely try to escape from the prison, has already set up Jail House Lock in the visitation room. The Fight of the Memory manipulators can now commence.

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As Stated The Battle takes place in the Green Dolphin State Prison visitation room.

They Both Know there is sure chance of confrontation in the visitation rooms and they know each others general location but not their exact positions.

They start, idk, let's say 25 meters or so apart from each other.

Aisha has a combat knife she snuck in the prison does not have her spider silk costume just her normal one, Miu has her standard equipment.

Aisha has some previous knowledge

Wincon for Aisha is escaping the prison and or incapping Miu, doesnt have to kill her,

Miu's wincon is succesfully keeping Aisha in the prison for longer than a week as per the PRT's orders, although she is willing to kill if it comes down to it.

Speed is Equalized

other than that, SBA apply.

Miu: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Miuccia_Miuller

Imp: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Imp_(Worm)

 

[Bedroombedrock]

The Match Is Ready Now

 

[Chariot190]

Is Imp's power automatic? Or does it have to be used manually?

 

[Bedroombedrock]

pretty sure she has to manually activate it via thought

 

[Chariot190]

That may or not be an issue depending on the circumstances and what's happening around Imp. Given Miu Miu tends to activate the power, overload the target's memory limit and slips away and have the target flail around for who knows how long.

But if Imp's power becomes activated, and Miu Miu slips away, that looks like it leads to a inconclusive. Given Miu Miu will forget that she's trying to contain Imp and Imp kinda cant escape due to the memory overload limit.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

She wouldnt forget her goal of keeping a prisoner inside, she'll just completely forget Aisha is in the prison

 

[Bedroombedrock]

UPDATE, READ: Oh and also i forgot to mention since i know most people don't actually read the stories I write but Aisha basically has more or less all the previous knowledge on Miu that Jolyne got from Emporio

 

[Chariot190]

>She wouldnt forget her goal of keeping a prisoner inside

I mean, there's nearly 2000 prisoners within GD. She'd be more likely to assume that the prisoner she's meant to guard is one of the few hundred others opposed to one she no longer knows even exists.

Although I guess it depends on who's faster on the draw here. Given when Miu Miu activated it on Jolyne, Jolyne didnt even get a punch off before forgetting who Miu Miu was and that she was in a fight, despite being mid punch. JHL being invisible may help with encroaching Imp though as it has a huge effective range and could get close to Imp before deems Miu Miu a threat as JHL isnt visible but idk, Imp may use that power the moment Imp notices Miu Miu even if Miu is like nearly 100 ft away. Hard to truly say in depth.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

I said a prisoner, she knows it's supposed to be a specific one,

also can you reword your reponse? No offense but it was kind of hard to read and understand

 

[Chariot190]

That better?

 

[Bedroombedrock]

yeah, ****, ill go get Wokistan so we don't make this an incon fra train

 

[Promestein]

Imp's ability throws of all sorts of stuff. She broke out of having her body controlled via her nervous system, out of being given commands by Valefor, and records of her degrade. Miu would forget she exists, and Jailhouse Lock would stop taking effect.

 

[Chariot190]

>Miu would forget she exists, and Jailhouse Lock would stop taking effect.

That aint how JHL works, nothing suggests that its reliant on Miu Miu knowing who her opponent is. In fact narrative context suggests otherwise given nobody in the history of the prison could escape because JHL is almost always at the entrance to the prison and upon contact, it takes effect, even if Miu Miu aint there (Probably why it has a 120sq km range as well). The effect seems to have to be manually deactivated once activated given what happened with Jolyne as well. And it's heavily implied a bunch of prisoners are under the effect of it simutaneously without conscious effort from Miu Miu.

 

[Wokistan]

Imp isn't manual. She manually suppresses it.

 

[Wokistan]

She causes powers to forget about her all the time anyways. It stopped Khepri and Valefor, and let her assassinate Heartbreaker.

 

[Chariot190]

>She causes powers to forget about her all the time anyways

JHL is semi-automatic though, once touched, the power (as in the effect, the Stand itself can piss off, be unsummond, etc and the effect doesnt vanish) has to be manually turned off, otherwise it just lasts forever. Not to mention Imp wouldnt exactly know to get the power to forget about her anyway, given that alone is at least two different memories. She'd be in a constant state of not knowing anything is even going on. And unlike Jolyne, she doesnt have outside help.

 

[Wokistan]

Same for Valefor. His power is usually permenant, with them needing to de-brainwash fallen months later currently in ward even when his power was worsened. Imp just sidesteps that entirely.

She kinda doesn't need to. If she's confused she's probably going to not focus on staying perceptible, since her default state is the other thing.

 

[Chariot190]

>Same for Valefor. His power is usually permenant, with them needing to de-brainwash fallen months later currently in ward even when his power was worsened. Imp just sidesteps that entirely.

Keyword there, usually. Ignoring the fact memory manipulation isnt mind control so idk why we're even having this conversation (JHL doesnt even effect past memories, it just makes it so new ones arent kept). Issue with that is Imp wont be confused, she'd forget she was confused in the first place and act normal like nothing ever happened or was happening, I dont even think she'd be able to leave her cell afterward given Jolyne had to be escorted just to get food and had to be pushed in the right direction by allies, Imp would likely never get anywhere because she wouldnt remember any new memories that she makes. To give you an idea, JHL made someone constantly forget they were in the middle of dying despite bleeding out while it was happening, couldnt even let them go as far to press a button on a computer because they couldnt keep the memory that they were even going to do that in the first place.

 

[Wokistan]

"Usually" because it wasn't for her. Unlike everyone else who got taken out of the Fallen or his control, or whatever, Imp didn't need any deconditioning.

Memory manipulation is still a power trying to affect her mind, and she's imperceptible to powers as is when she's not off.

If imp is acting normal she's going to not be suppressed at some point. She doesn't really need a reason to be imperceptible.

Also, imp wouldn't start out perceptible and isn't ever going to be in a 1v1 that shes willing to kill at.

 

[Chariot190]

It isnt effecting her mind, it's effecting her ability to register new information. It doesnt change or effect anything that's already there or changes anything after the fact. She simply cant retain new information properly.

>If imp is acting normal she's going to not be suppressed at some point. She doesn't really need a reason to be imperceptible.

As said, someone effected by JHL was stuck in a nigh-infinite loop of trying to press a button on a computer but couldnt because by the time that person decided on what and how to do it, they were back at square one of deciding to do that thing. Couldnt even plug the PC in because the act of wanting to do that counted as a memory.

I can think of a few, and no, not really, she'd be locked in a constant state of deciding to go imperceptible but never actually doing so because she'd be back at square one of deciding to go imperceptible. The mere act of deciding to go imperceptible counts as a memory, not witstanding any other information she may be getting like what those people acros the room are doing, the fact she needs to escape, why's she in the location she is in, is that person in front of her a enemy, etc.

>Also, imp wouldn't start out perceptible and isn't ever going to be in a 1v1 that shes willing to kill at.

And Miu Miu wouldnt start out within range given 99% of her victims just kinda happened and she was nowhere in sight, her usual gameplan is just have JHL always be at the front and autofuck anyone who tries to escape on contact given they cant see or sense it and it's range is the entire 120square kilometer of the prison and its walls. Only did it with Jolyne because Pucci told Miu to tell Jolyne he wouldnt interfere with her or Jotaro if she just pisses off and doesnt attempt to stop him and he'd allow Jolyne to save Jotaro if she doesnt, Jolyne retaliated though, but that isnt Miu's usual plan of operation. Other than that, she's usually hanging out in other wards while her Stand does the thing. My point is, just because that's usually how the characters go into fights, doesnt mean they pre-emptively begin that way in vs matches, she can do it when the match starts right away, but that aint the state she starts off in, given you yourself said she manually surpresses it, she would have to decide to stop surpressing it. Usually how characters like that work in matches.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

glad this got attention

 

[Chariot190]

Fyi, just letting you know, in case it wasnt intentinal, but speed aint equal.

That doesnt really effect Miu's speed or anything but it would allow JHL to inflict it's condition safely at the very least.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

I just didn't mention it to see if anyone would mention it because people don't read the SBA's but yeah you're right, I should probably equalize her MFTL reaction speed

 

[Chariot190]

If you're gonna equalize, I'd recommend putting them at the same distance Miu and Jolyne were.

Otherwise Imp is definitely gonna win, no questions asked, given thinking is kinda >>>>>>>>> JHL effecting 20meters. At least that way it's essentially a old western stand off.

 

[Chariot190]

Oh, also wanna mention, but Imp's lack of focus is a bit of a detriment. Given Jolyne's focus still wasnt nearly enough without outside factors. Hell despite Emporio literally dying next to her, noticing a picture of cake in her peripheral made her go back to square one temporarily because she remembered she liked cake and it reset.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

What distance were they again? It's been a while since I read Stone Ocean

 

[Chariot190]

Both were in arm's reach (dk a meter or two?). Miu Miu went to Jolyne's cell to tell her that Pucci said if she doesnt escape before the new moon and stays put, he wont prevent or intefere with Jolyne getting Jotaro his disc to the speedwagon foundation nor intefere with her life after the plan. Basically prompting a ceasefire.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Wouldn't that be worse? Or? I'm kind of confused on what you're suggesting here

 

[Chariot190]

It'd be a Stand Off (no pun intended), both would have a chance to activate their abilities, before the other, as looking at it, whoever metaphorically shoots first would incap the other in this match.

Because atm, if JHL is equalized, Miu Miu is literally never gonna have it reach Imp before Imp decides to just not surpress her ability, given a thought > 20 meters. Like, a million times over.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Can't Miu just sic JHL on Imp with a thought? It has a big range so I don't see why she can't have it just activate it's ability on her as soon as she wants it to

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Also i equalized speed because MFTL reaction speeds means Aisha can't touch Miu

 

[Chariot190]

>Can't Miu just sic JHL on Imp with a thought? It has a big range so I don't see why she can't have it just activate it's ability on her as soon as she wants it to

She can but JHl still has to cover those 20m. It can stretch itself to mitigate the distance but, it still has to move a bit, which is slower than thinking. And I doubt JHL can get within cqc before Imp decides to go impercetible. Maybe JHL being invisible can help with that as Imp wont know its coming but eh... If she wants to avoid Miu regardless, she'd likely lead with it would she not? Doesnt really give JHL a chance even if she cant see it.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

But don't all Stand Users have the ability to kinda just you know, teleport their stands anywhere that's within their range? She could just teleport it, or have her touch one of the iron bars that already have JHL on them since I think that's what the story dictates, idk, maybe I can change it

 

[Bedroombedrock]

"Life of threes: Jail House Lock is triggered if someone or their Stand touches the bars or walls beyond the visiting room of Green Dolphin Street prison or if Miu Miu uses it on someone."

 

[Chariot190]

The teleport thing is a case by case thing, some Stands can, some cant (most obvious example is Echoes Act 1, Jotaro had to get floored because Echoes couldnt manifest anywhere within that range).

I guess, if it's automatic, beyond a certain point at least, but if that's the case then I have no idea how it'd play out given if JHL is automatically apart of the prison past the cells then I have no idea how it'd play out really as at that point JHL is basically a automatic Stand and Imp may or may not touch it even without Miu's interference.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Eh that's fair, nvm ignore that point then.

It's been a while since I've read it but going off the profile I'm assuming it's more or less automatic if someone makes contact with the surroundings beyond the visiting room.

Also wdym, maybe I'm just blind but I'm trying to wrap my head around what you said in that second paragraph, just reword it briefly

 

[Chariot190]

Ok.

I guess, Emporio seems to word it like that too, it's not like Miu is always in the visiting room, in fact we know for a fact she aint. Yet JHL is always around to prevent escapees.

What I mean is, if Imp is trying to escape, Miu may not even have to sic it on her, Imp may just accidentally encounter it herself, Miu may not have to directly interefere with Imp if Imp isnt aware of what not to do. And if they start in the visitation rooms like the OP dictates, then JHL is mostly automatic, in which case it's a case of who decides to use their power first, given both are essentially thought based in that scenario.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

yeah that's kinda what I was going for, They start in the general vicinity of 20 m from each other in the visitation rooms and they both know there's a sure chance of some sort of confrontation but they both aren't aware of each others exact location just a general area.

Anyways we should get back to the actual fight before this turns into my last thread with Taylor where it was just us two discussing shit in the comments.

I think I'll specify their settings a bit more but overall the battle assumptions I'll leave the same

 

[Chariot190]

I was assuming both were directly across from each other given SBA tends to dictate that. That begs the question though of would Miu actively hunt Imp? That aint how she tends to go about stopping escapees. Usually she doesnt even get close.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Well she was alerted to Imps impending escape and was tasked with stopping her and keeping her in, so maybe? They're not across from each other but it wouldn't take a lot for them to spot each other