An actual viable Taskmaster match (2-0-0)

[Tomfer]

Taskmaster vs Moon Knight​

They have the same AP and Speed value.

Main wincon for Taskmaster:
More skillful.

Main wincon for Moon Knight:
Better hax.
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[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Taskmaster would be able to overwhelm Moon Knight in a conventional fight. He's studied Moon Knight in the past, so unless he significantly changes his standard tactics Tasky would be able to counter and adapt to any physical attack he'd throw.

That said, I think Taskmaster might face a similar challenge that he had when they last fought. Despite Moon Knight being less skilled in a technical sense, he's got more than enough endurance to take most of what Tasky can offer here. I also don't think Tasky could really do anything to counter his magical abilities.

This is assuming Tasky doesn't just flee outright. Moon Knight could beat him through SI alone, considering he's one of the few people Tasky flat-out refuses to fight under normal circumstances. Even for money.

 

[Tomfer]

Before anything, while Moon Knight technically does have a lifting strength advantage, in actuality, they're both Class K because of this thread that upgrades all 9-Bs to that class. So let's just assume they're equal on that regard too.

That said, I think Taskmaster might face a similar challenge that he had when they last fought. Despite Moon Knight being less skilled in a technical sense, he's got more than enough endurance to take most of what Tasky can offer here. I also don't think Tasky could really do anything to counter his magical abilities.

To be fair, Moon Knight decided to end things as fast as possible in their comic fight, something that he cannot do here since the best he's getting is his angel-glider, not his moon-copter (MK doesn't even have it anymore because of their encounter, lmao). And yes, Taskmaster does not have any way to counter his magic but it's not that bad, Edit: even if it's a Low 1-A force, MK doesn't have really go for it unless it's a supernatural creature or near out of options.

This is assuming Tasky doesn't just flee outright. Moon Knight could beat him through SI alone, considering he's one of the few people Tasky flat-out refuses to fight under normal circumstances. Even for money.

I'm pretty sure that SBA can negate that, even if it's an in-character rule. Taskmaster will probably assume that MK is going for the kill here and knows that he can't escape him.

I'll throw my small analyze here to get the ball rolling:

While Taskmaster does have a significant skill advantage here, MK's stats amp + spatial manipulation can increase MK's AP and Speed enough to "stomp" characters far more skilled than Tasky, like Iron Fist in that Age of Khonshu event. It also shows that, while not as skilled as the top tiers, he can at least compete and not be stomped.

The winner will most likely be decided if Taskmaster can be fast enough to win at the very beginning, otherwise it would be a war of attrition that MK will most likely win.

 

[Eseseso]

Before anything, while Moon Knight technically does have a lifting strength advantage, in actuality, they're both Class K because of this thread that upgrades all 9-Bs to that class. So let's just assume they're equal on that regard too.


To be fair, Moon Knight decided to end things as fast as possible in their comic fight, something that he cannot do here since the best he's getting is his angel-glider, not his moon-copter (MK doesn't even have it anymore because of their encounter, lmao). And yes, Taskmaster does not have any way to counter his magic but it's not that bad, Edit: even if it's a Low 1-A force, MK doesn't have really go for it unless it's a supernatural creature or near out of options.


I'm pretty sure that SBA can negate that, even if it's an in-character rule. Taskmaster will probably assume that MK is going for the kill here and knows that he can't escape him.

I'll throw my small analyze here to get the ball rolling:

While Taskmaster does have a significant skill advantage here, MK's stats amp + spatial manipulation can increase MK's AP and Speed enough to "stomp" characters far more skilled than Tasky, like Iron Fist in that Age of Khonshu event. It also shows that, while not as skilled as the top tiers, he can at least compete and not be stomped.

The winner will most likely be decided if Taskmaster can be fast enough to win at the very beginning, otherwise it would be a war of attrition that MK will most likely win.

I'll lean Moon Knight FRA for now

 

[Robo432343]

While Taskmaster does have a significant skill advantage here, MK's stats amp + spatial manipulation can increase MK's AP and Speed enough to "stomp" characters far more skilled than Tasky, like Iron Fist in that Age of Khonshu event. It also shows that, while not as skilled as the top tiers, he can at least compete and not be stomped.

Hasn't Taskmaster already dealt with state amp and spatial manip before tho??

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I'm pretty sure that SBA can negate that, even if it's an in-character rule. Taskmaster will probably assume that MK is going for the kill here and knows that he can't escape him.

SBA would negate that normally, but based on his profile SI is like...an actual power Moon Knight has, and not something that's exclusive to Tasky. So Taskmaster would still feel the effects of it even though he is technically forced to fight through SBA rules. Which is detrimental to him.

I'm shaky on how much SI can be used as an actual wincon in site matches, admittedly.

To be fair, Moon Knight decided to end things as fast as possible in their comic fight, something that he cannot do here since the best he's getting is his angel-glider, not his moon-copter (MK doesn't even have it anymore because of their encounter, lmao). And yes, Taskmaster does not have any way to counter his magic but it's not that bad, Edit: even if it's a Low 1-A force, MK doesn't have really go for it unless it's a supernatural creature or near out of options.

This does make sense.

like Iron Fist in that Age of Khonshu event.

Is Iron Fist really that much more skilled than Taskmaster is? They've fought pretty evenly in the past. I don't doubt he's more skilled, but I question if there's like...a large gap.

The winner will most likely be decided if Taskmaster can be fast enough to win at the very beginning, otherwise it would be a war of attrition that MK will most likely win.

Question: Is the starting distance SBA?

I imagine in character, given Moon Knight's reputation, Taskmaster would probably try to just headshot him with his bow or a conventional firearm.

 

[Tomfer]

Hasn't Taskmaster already dealt with state amp and spatial manip before tho??

Stat amp of MK is quite higher than normal, high enough that he can even one-shot a 8-C like during his West Coast Avengers run, MK was 100% empowered by Khonshu atm and one-shotted Black Knight with a sneak attack.

SBA would negate that normally, but based on his profile SI is like...an actual power Moon Knight has, and not something that's exclusive to Tasky. So Taskmaster would still feel the effects of it even though he is technically forced to fight through SBA rules. Which is detrimental to him.

I'm shaky on how much SI can be used as an actual wincon in site matches, admittedly.

Yeah, same ngl.

Is Iron Fist really that much more skilled than Taskmaster is? They've fought pretty evenly in the past. I don't doubt he's more skilled, but I question if there's like...a large gap.

To be honest, fighting once and twice isn't saying much, otherwise MK would be considered far higher than he should be, lmao. We did consider him to be top 2 most skilled in marvel, where Taskmaster is 5 and MK is 7.

Edit: I think the skill gap between Task and Iron Fist is the same gap there is between Task and MK.

Question: Is the starting distance SBA?

I imagine in character, given Moon Knight's reputation, Taskmaster would probably try to just headshot him with his bow or a conventional firearm.

The biggest distance between the two last I remember? So Hundreds of Meters because of Task. And yeah, I agree that he'll try to keep a distance, but his SI will make his aim worse than usual, so that's an advantage.

 

[Tomfer]

Bump

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

To be honest, fighting once and twice isn't saying much, otherwise MK would be considered far higher than he should be, lmao. We did consider him to be top 2 most skilled in marvel, where Taskmaster is 5 and MK is 7.

Edit: I think the skill gap between Task and Iron Fist is the same gap there is between Task and MK.

Yeah, I suppose that's fair lol.

The biggest distance between the two last I remember? So Hundreds of Meters because of Task. And yeah, I agree that he'll try to keep a distance, but his SI will make his aim worse than usual, so that's an advantage.

While this would be an advantage, Taskmaster possesses AOE projectiles as well, such as his trick arrows. Even if he misses the first initial shots, he could transition to laying down explosive fire.

He is also incredibly skilled at ricocheting thrown projectiles, due to copying Captain America and Daredevil. Meaning if he plays the range game, he could hit Moon Knight even if the initial throw misses.

 

[Tomfer]

While this would be an advantage, Taskmaster possesses AOE projectiles as well, such as his trick arrows. Even if he misses the first initial shots, he could transition to laying down explosive fire.

AOE is a problem yeah, but I believe that MK could just shoot back to explode the arrow mid-air. He's just as precise and agile as the heavy-hitters, being able to cut a bullet mid-air like it was nothing. And I believe MK would know that it was an explosive arrow just by looking at it, just look at his intelligence tab, it shows his ability to notice the smallest of things, plus the fact that it's not just 1 person looking at it, but 3, so one of the three people could just warn MK of the danger.

He is also incredibly skilled at ricocheting thrown projectiles, due to copying Captain America and Daredevil. Meaning if he plays the range game, he could hit Moon Knight even if the initial throw misses.

Taskmaster holds an advantage at that if I'm being honest, but it's not as big since I don't believe Task to be as good as these two. MK is also skilled in that area, so he could ricochete his own batons against Task's projectiles to somewhat hold him off, but Task wins that in the long run, I agree.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

AOE is a problem yeah, but I believe that MK could just shoot back to explode the arrow mid-air. He's just as precise and agile as the heavy-hitters, being able to cut a bullet mid-air like it was nothing. And I believe MK would know that it was an explosive arrow just by looking at it, just look at his intelligence tab, it shows his ability to notice the smallest of things, plus the fact that it's not just 1 person looking at it, but 3, so one of the three people could just warn MK of the danger.

While he may be able to deflect singular arrows, Taskmaster would likely respond by using his own agility in an attempt to outmaneuver and strike Moon Knight in ways that are more difficult for him to counter. Tasky himself should have an advantage in (physical) movement, given he freely mixes Daredevil and Spider-Man's acrobatic talents whenever he fights, and should be capable of firing his arrows while doing so.

Taskmaster holds an advantage at that if I'm being honest, but it's not as big since I don't believe Task to be as good as these two. MK is also skilled in that area, so he could ricochete his own batons against Task's projectiles to somewhat hold him off, but Task wins that in the long run, I agree.

He might not be as good as them in terms of say, application. But the raw technique is very much the same, so he should definitely be difficult to contend with in that field. Especially when he can use said projectiles to strike opponents in their blind spot.

Moon Knight attempting to use thrown projectiles would generally be inadvisable. Due to having studied Moon Knight's style, he'd be fully capable of anticipating Moon Knight's projectiles, meaning he'd likely either catch them or instantly deflect them with his own weaponry.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Doesn't Taskmaster not have a way to counter Moon Knight because he canonically takes a beating far better than Taskmaster himself? It's why Taskmaster refuses to use Moon Knight's techniques cause it's suicidal.

I'm pretty sure Moon Knight can edge out a win here through sheer attrition.

 

[Tomfer]

Doesn't Taskmaster not have a way to counter Moon Knight because he canonically takes a beating far better than Taskmaster himself? It's why Taskmaster refuses to use Moon Knight's techniques cause it's suicidal.

I'm pretty sure Moon Knight can edge out a win here through sheer attrition.

Yeah, like I said before;

The winner will most likely be decided if Taskmaster can be fast enough to win at the very beginning, otherwise it would be a war of attrition that MK will most likely win.

We are just talking about how exactly can Taskmaster win fast before Mooney just stats amp wins.

While he may be able to deflect singular arrows, Taskmaster would likely respond by using his own agility in an attempt to outmaneuver and strike Moon Knight in ways that are more difficult for him to counter. Tasky himself should have an advantage in (physical) movement, given he freely mixes Daredevil and Spider-Man's acrobatic talents whenever he fights, and should be capable of firing his arrows while doing so.

Yeah, I can give him that. But truth be told, as the fight goes on, MK will start to become faster and faster than Task. So it's temporary advantage.

He might not be as good as them in terms of say, application. But the raw technique is very much the same, so he should definitely be difficult to contend with in that field. Especially when he can use said projectiles to strike opponents in their blind spot.

Moon Knight attempting to use thrown projectiles would generally be inadvisable. Due to having studied Moon Knight's style, he'd be fully capable of anticipating Moon Knight's projectiles, meaning he'd likely either catch them or instantly deflect them with his own weaponry.

Yeah, Taskmaster would most likely land fair amount of strikes as MK tries to catch up with him; but that's where two things come into play, one being his stamina that is, I believe, to be vastly superior than almost anyone street level-wise. And his armor that is, if you open the tabber, was adamantium before upgrading into carbonadium. Task can sure can land a few strikes, but they would either barely do any actual damage thanks to his armor or do damage and not affect him.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

hmmm. If his armor is really that good then this may be too much for Tasky to handle. As established he could certainly out-fight Moon Knight in the short term. But if his endurance and armor prevent Tasky from landing a deceive strike, he could just outlast and press his superior stat amp and stamina advantage.

Leaning toward Moon Knight.

 

[Tomfer]

I'll lean Moon Knight FRA for now

I'm pretty sure Moon Knight can edge out a win here through sheer attrition.

Leaning toward Moon Knight.

Can I start counting your votes by now?

 

[Tomfer]

Bump; I counted the obvious votes for now.