An absolutely infinite number of dimensions, and how that relates to Tier 1-A/0

[Malomtek]

Does a character with non-zero magnitude in an absolute infinity of dimensional vectors apply for Tier 0? Is the character even beyond entities who, by definition, exist beyond the concept of dimensions altogether?

Or do Tier 1-A and 0 characters transcend the power of even an absolutely infinitely-dimensional character, making them in some sense, beyond absolute infinity?

 

[GLHF22]

all tier 1-A characters have qualitative superiority over dimensional structures and concepts. Also, mere capability to exist in a beyond dimensional domain does not qualify a character as a beyond dimensional being.

There are two options in order to qualify for this tier: There should either be a qualitative superiority over infinite dimensions; or the superiority over the concept of dimensions (in general) should be clearly explained.

 

[GLHF22]

Take note that even if a character is a more than countably infinite number of times superior to an infinite-dimensional space, or similar, it would still usually only qualify for High 1-B, as long as the character does not transcend the concepts of time and space altogether.

 

[Malomtek]

So what you're saying is that yes, 1-As and 0s are, at least in a sense, beyond absolute infinity.

 

[My_area]

I am not good at stuffs regarding 1 A and 0 but I dount that there is even absolute infinity dimeneion

 

[Malomtek]

I am not good at stuffs regarding 1 A and 0 but I dount that there is even absolute infinity dimeneion

The absolutely infinite number of dimensions is a hypothetical concerning the tiering system of this site.

One one end, an absolutely infinite-dimensional being should be a Tier 0, as he possesses absolutely infinite power.

One the other end, Tiers 1-A and 0 are defined by their qualitative superiority to dimensions as a concept, which would supposedly include even dimensions of an absolutely infinite number, making them "beyond absolute infinity", a seemingly absurd concept to be sure.

For reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_Infinite

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Yeah, dimensions don't simply "end" after a specific point, so in principle you could construct systems and spaces with any number of dimensions, no matter how high. You can even make sets of dimensions that are equivalent to cardinalities which can't be defined as the union of quantities smaller than themselves, or quantities so big the laws of classical logic start to break down.

I personally think such large numbers of dimensions are pretty much unquantifiable in relation to our System though, and should mostly be ignored at least for now

 

[Malomtek]

Yeah, dimensions don't simply "end" after a specific point, so in principle you could construct systems and spaces with any number of dimensions, no matter how high. You can even make sets of dimensions that are equivalent to cardinalities which can't be defined as the union of quantities smaller than themselves, or quantities so big the laws of classical logic start to break down.

I personally think such large numbers of dimensions are pretty much unquantifiable in relation to our System though, and should mostly be ignored at least for now

Can you get other staff members for their opinions on this seeming paradox concerning dimensions? I would like to see the thoughts of Antvasima and DarkLK on the matter.

 

[Antoniofer]

Personally I rather stop at the 10th dimension, at that point one cover absolutly everything, all the spaces, times, possibilities, variables and probabilities, not sure what would someone cover beyond that number of dimension. I guess anyone with 1-A needs this power as requeriment, as it exist outside dimensions.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

the """10th dimension""" wouldn't be this all-encompassing metaphysical mumbo jumbo Rob Bryanton talks about, though. It would be simply another axis of movement within a System, like all other dimensions. Infinite-Dimensional Spaces are rather common in mathematics, and there are countless instances of theories with more Dimensions than 10, like F-Theory, which proposes a 12-dimensional universe.

 

[Antvasima]

As far as I understand, tiers 1-A and 0 are completely metaphysical to the degree that any infinity dreamt up by physics or mathematics is qualitatively exceeded. It is not my area though.

 

[Malomtek]

As far as I understand, tiers 1-A and 0 are completely metaphysical to the degree that any infinity dreamt up by physics or mathematics is qualitatively exceeded. It is not my area though.

Would you say that they are, at least in some sense, beyond absolute infinity?

 

[GLHF22]

If you want to know more i suggest read explanation page of Cthulhu mythos and Umineko

 

[Antvasima]

Our Umineko profiles need to be improved on though.

 

[Antvasima]

Would you say that they are, at least in some sense, beyond absolute infinity?

Yes. Our scales of measurement do not work any more for those tiers.

 

[GLHF22]

Our Umineko profiles need to be improved on though.

yeah but their cosmology is good enough for us to learn more about tier 1A

 

[Antvasima]

Promestein needs to improve on the Umineko pages first.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

No need to overcomplicate things, 1-A is just "being beyond all applications of space-time dimensionality", it's in the Tiering System page. It's not about "transcending all manners of lawgic and maths and infiniteh" nonsense, the Tier even being beyond our mathematical sense of scale is inaccurate and honestly contradictory, since we can still assign size for "Outerversal" areas and define hierarchies of existence of similar scales.

Sure, 1-A is metaphysical, but not to the extent some people make it out to be. Mathematics themselves delve into far more abstract and fundamental stuff than just "1 + 1 = 2"

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

 

[Ryukama]

Ultima seems to make sense

 

[Antvasima]

So since the question has been answered, should we close this thread?

 

[Malomtek]

So since the question has been answered, should we close this thread?

Not just yet. We need other staff members' opinion on this.

 

[Antvasima]

I don't think that there seems to be much else to add.

 

[Malomtek]

I don't think that there seems to be much else to add.

Okay then. You can close this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.