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It's sad that I had to make this thread especially since it's well known I can't stand Higher Dimensional Existence or Tier 1 stuff but this nonsense needs to get solved asap. It's been brought up in recent discussions that that simply embodying a timeline/universe space-time continuum doesn't give Higher-Dimensional Existence because for that you'd need 4-D space or above.
On the page itself it says...
"A given object or entity is referred to as being higher-dimensional when they exist as part of a system with a number of coordinates axes greater than our own, or in layman's terms, if they possess more than three dimensions.
Speaking in simple terms, a "dimension" can be considered an axis of movement and measurement, through which beings and objects can displace themselves throughout a given physical system. 1-dimensional beings would only be able to dislocate themselves to left and right across a single direction, while 2-dimensional beings would have an additional spatial axis inherent to them, and thus be able to move up and down as well. Finally, 3-dimensional beings like ourselves are able to displace themselves left and right and up and down, as well as forwards and backwards, encompassings parts of additional axes of space.
Following this same principle, a 4-dimensional being would be capable of moving through an additional, perpendicular direction incomprehensible to lower-dimensional beings, and this can be generalized unto any higher number of dimensions."
The issue arises when we in fact consider a space-time continuum (The entire past, present, and future of a 3 dimensional structure) a 4-D structure (because of the time axis) in the same level as 4-D space as per our Tiering System page which states...
"Characters or objects that are capable of significantly affecting,[1] creating, and/or destroying an area of space qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:
A) Equivalent to a large extra dimensional space. That is, a higher-dimensional "bulk" space which embeds lower-dimensional ones (Such as our universe) as subsets of itself, whose dimensions are not microscopic / compactified.
B) Portrayed as completely transcending lower-dimensional objects and spaces in the setting of a given work of fiction."
This issue has led to several characters already having Higher Dimensional Existence for embodying space-time continuums (universes) on there pages. Some examples being Fusion Zamasu (Infinite Zamasu), Mechikabura, Chaos (Sailor Moon) and god knows who else.
It's obvious there is a misconception here and either embodying a timeline/space-time continuum doesn't count as it lacks a 4-D space (and only has 4-D time) and every character that has Higher Dimensional Existence because of this reasoning needs it removed or it does count. It's one or the other so can we please solve this issue to avoid further confusion please.
On the page itself it says...
"A given object or entity is referred to as being higher-dimensional when they exist as part of a system with a number of coordinates axes greater than our own, or in layman's terms, if they possess more than three dimensions.
Speaking in simple terms, a "dimension" can be considered an axis of movement and measurement, through which beings and objects can displace themselves throughout a given physical system. 1-dimensional beings would only be able to dislocate themselves to left and right across a single direction, while 2-dimensional beings would have an additional spatial axis inherent to them, and thus be able to move up and down as well. Finally, 3-dimensional beings like ourselves are able to displace themselves left and right and up and down, as well as forwards and backwards, encompassings parts of additional axes of space.
Following this same principle, a 4-dimensional being would be capable of moving through an additional, perpendicular direction incomprehensible to lower-dimensional beings, and this can be generalized unto any higher number of dimensions."
The issue arises when we in fact consider a space-time continuum (The entire past, present, and future of a 3 dimensional structure) a 4-D structure (because of the time axis) in the same level as 4-D space as per our Tiering System page which states...
"Characters or objects that are capable of significantly affecting,[1] creating, and/or destroying an area of space qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. Common fictional examples of spaces representing such sizes are space-time continuums (the entire past, present and future of 3-dimensional space) of a universal scale. However, it can be more generally fulfilled by any 4-dimensional space that is either:
A) Equivalent to a large extra dimensional space. That is, a higher-dimensional "bulk" space which embeds lower-dimensional ones (Such as our universe) as subsets of itself, whose dimensions are not microscopic / compactified.
B) Portrayed as completely transcending lower-dimensional objects and spaces in the setting of a given work of fiction."
This issue has led to several characters already having Higher Dimensional Existence for embodying space-time continuums (universes) on there pages. Some examples being Fusion Zamasu (Infinite Zamasu), Mechikabura, Chaos (Sailor Moon) and god knows who else.
It's obvious there is a misconception here and either embodying a timeline/space-time continuum doesn't count as it lacks a 4-D space (and only has 4-D time) and every character that has Higher Dimensional Existence because of this reasoning needs it removed or it does count. It's one or the other so can we please solve this issue to avoid further confusion please.
