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Amalgam Brothers and Living Tribunal Revision

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For the Living Tribunal:

"Note 3:
The original Living Tribunal was able to create and hold the guardians of Marvel and DC respectively in the palm of its hand, with them possessing forces that were narrated as sufficient to vaporize galaxies. However, nothing was stated about holding two "megaverses"."

This is completely ridiculous. The Brothers are outright stated in handbooks to each encompass a megaverse.


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"...within the larger omniverse but encompassing more than a single Multiverse."

For the Brothers Yin and Yang:

"Attack Potency:
Unknow (Shown as far more powerful than the Living Tribunal, but it did not seem to be displayed anywhere near its full capacity within this storyline)"


Apparently, this scan doesn't exist:

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For Both the Living Tribunal and the Amalgam Brothers:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

"As seen in the DC vs Marvel limited series, the Brothers encompass their entire respective multiverses (i.e. The Marvel Brother encompasses both the mainstream Marvel universe and its alternate realities such as Earth-Days of Future past etc.) It extends beyond just their Multiverses, though, as realms such as the New Universe, outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse, were affected. However, they do not encompass the entire Omniverse, only DC and Marvel Megaverses. The Omniverse is the term used to describe all realities and all multiverses, whereas Megaverse is a term (coined by Snood) which is used to describe all multiverses within one line of comics. All of it is within the Omniverse, whether or not it is in the comics. For an in depth explanation of the Omniverse and the other terms along those lines, click on the link below.

Omniverse

In--of all places--The Adventures of the X-Men#12, the hierarchy of the Brothers (as higher than the Living Tribunal) is disputed. This is a somewhat interesting series, as I had initially just assumed it to be adaptations of the X-Men cartoon. I watched the first season or two, but didn't continue to follow it, so I can't confirm or deny this as being the case. However/Anyway, in this issue, the demons D'Spayre and the Dweller-in-Darkness instigate the destruction of the M'Kraan Crystal, which in turn destroys all reality. Phoenix harnesses all of the positive emotions of everyone in the universe and uses this energy to have the sentience of the universe join with Galan of Taa and allow him to survive the destruction of the universe, and to ultimately become Galactus in that Universe. So, the implication is that the events of that series (and possibly of the cartoon) took place in the universe before the current one. At any rate, the relevance is here: During this conflict, the Living Tribunal is seen to be holding the Two Brothers in the palm of his hand, as he goes to consult with his "hooded, spectral ally" (clearly the Spectre). As the old universe is destroyed, the Tribunal releases the Brothers to "assume their pre-destined roles as architects of new realities." So, while the Adventures of the X-Men is not quite official canon, the book was written by Ralph Macchio, with the assistance of Mike Carlin, indicating that both Marvel and DC were involved in this explanation. The Brothers are thus intermediary in power and authority between the Living Tribunal and Eternity (or their comparable counterparts in the DC Megaverse). However, each Brother tends has some authority and control over universes outside the standard Multiverse, but within the Megaverse, while the Living Tribunal has not been shown to have authority over worlds outside the Multiverse. --Snood."
 
All that was stated in the handbook (for which the text segments, but not the statistics, are written by Marvel interns, not the editors, and as such unreliable) was that they were supposedly guardians of their respective "megaverses" (which is a term that we do not use, as the scale is far too imprecise).

Nothing was said about them encompassing said realities in the post-retcon reality. All that we know about them is that the Living Tribunal and the Spectre created them as delusional experiments that were explicitly stated as unleashing forces capable of vaporising galaxies, and that's it.

Pre-Retcon, they were stated to be far above the Living Tribunal, and encompassing the Marvel Multiverse and DC Multiverse respectively, but exactly how high a level of reality each of them encompassed within this story was left undefined.

We are not going to make any changes to either of their tiers. Period.

And given your disrespectful and confrontational attitude, combined with that you have a history of unreasonable Marvel upgrade attempts, while contributing nothing else of value to the wiki, it seems safest to block you.
 
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