Amakasu Masahiko vs The God Emperor of Mankind

[Cuckmaster_Gilgamesh]

Both 4-A versions. Speed equalized.


Neat Sword Boye


Oh yeah, sure. And tell your wife to bring the cookies.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

The emperor via existance erasure and bullshit resistances

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

The Emperor FRA

 

[PsychoWarper]

Amakasu is only 4-A with summons and EoM erases.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

>4-A amakasu

You do realize amakasu is 5-B but that's his summons so physically he's horrible. But i guess it doesn't exactly matter?

But amakasu still has information analysis tbf so he could BFR the emperor into a dream. And can amp his speed to immesurable with BS will. He also resistence to info analysis tbf (the 2-A being cannot get information on amakasu during the fight against yoshiya as he was beyond the alaya's understanding. Also idk if precog is considered info knowing? I'm guessing so don't @ or rip me up for it lol)

 

[PsychoWarper]

But what about EoM broken Precog thats superior to Eldrads?

Also on an unrealated note the EoM should have type 4 immortality.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

tbh i'm pretty sure it would matter yeah. Again i was guessing but if it doesn't amakasu still can info analysis and realize an issue so he could BFR Emperah into a dream TBF

 

[PsychoWarper]

True but the EoM can just leave and return via the Warp.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

he can come back from BFR into a dream?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Dont know the Warp is pretty weird.

Anyway everything going Amakasus way has an "if" attached to it.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Azzy explain yourself :V

But he needs a bit to come back. I mean how good is his mind resistence? If its lower than what amakasu dishes out (ask alaya) then maybe crom crunch could work?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Depends on who you ask buts its usually considered between 2-B - 1-A level (usually).

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

if its using low end 2-B then amakasu has the higher ground cuz alaya is 2-A (alrfy said smth of this btw). But i suspect its in the 1-A spectrum for some reason.

 

[RKGenki]

Afaik his resistances are scaled from the Chaos Gods, and they are 1-A in 40k

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

then amakasu's best chance is the dream BFR but...with that weird implication idk how it will work (because if that doesn't work i don't think amakasu can even win though i could be missing smth atm)

 

[RKGenki]

Idk about that, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Warp covered that as well

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

we probs need the experts on this tbh

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Emperor is way supeior people

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Emperor is way supeior people

i want to know his extent to see if its a stomp or not because if warp covers BFR then yeah...or his resistence (well its reinhard level BS can't exactly judge it rofl)

 

[RKGenki]

Yeah we need experts. It does cover normal BFR, but idk if it'd cover dream BFR

But then again, 1-A shenanigans, so I'm not sure if it matters much where it BFRs

 

[PsychoWarper]

I mean the Warp is a 1-A realm.

I asked for Woki to help here.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Emperor is comparable to Reinhard as 4-A

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

What is the doubt here.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Weather or not the EoM can return from Dream BFR via the Warp.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

What is Dream BFR.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

all i am aware of is that amakasu can banish people and material things into dreams as from his profile hence what i meant by the BFR

 

[PsychoWarper]

Amakasu BFRing the EoM into a dream from what I can tell.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

What is BFRd tho. The body, the soul, the mind?

 

[PsychoWarper]

From the sounds of it everything.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i'm not sure of anything specific other than just everything? I might want to cross check with alrfy if i can

 

[Wokistan]

Emps should be able to travel through the warp to escape BFR, and his actions are among very few things that Kairos Fateweaver and Tzeentcj can't really forsee or truely understand. That's gonna have to be some info analysis he's got there, and all this before the emperor thinks.

 

[Wokistan]

His soul/mind is the warp entity itself. Body, idk if we'd say that chaos floods the universe if it gets removed.

 

[Archaron]

Emperor is comparable to Reinhard as 4-A

Reinhard > Yakou and Amakasu. If the emperor is able to remain equal against the various haxs of reinhard it is remarkable that he has more advantages in this fight.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

As broken as masada can be...

Passive mind hax GG

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

this would be a stomp if he has 0 way to win and if BFR is out of the way then he can't do anything and i'm pretty sure he has 1-A mind hax resistence

 

[Wokistan]

>Passive

Excuse me what

Yeah mindhaxing emps isn't likely to go well. Maybe it's a stomp, idk enough about Masada dude to say for sure and am about to sleep.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

The emps resist mind hax on a 1A scale so that is out.

 

[Archaron]

This is a stomp after all. It can't be helped.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

the only useful thing amakatsu has against the emperor is immesurable speed even then it is countered since the emperor does not percive time linearly and would see amakatsu coming

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

and since BFR is covered by warp nothing he can really do. Even if he initiates ragnarok with the end result being a 2-A destruction pretty sure it won't work that well. I mean info analysis helps yes but if it gets no where then well...But amakasu can amp his speed to the point emperah's precog maybe useless due to amping his own speed to immesurable tbf