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Alucard Upgrade
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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So the upgrade is consistent then?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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So with Walter's new 8-B Calc, Combined with this Plane Feat, is this Revision good to be applied?
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Pretty sure Walter was making literal sliced cheese out of Alucard casually.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That just means Walter upscales from his own Feat and Alucard. They're both 8-B and the gap between their feats is only like a 3× Gap at most.
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I'm saying I'm pretty sure we can't scale Walter's 8-B to Alucard, or really himself physically. Alucard's best durability feat could have easily been regenerated from, I'm fine with a "possibly 8-B" to Alucard and those who scale, with Walter's strings being just flat 8-B because of their own feat.
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no lol you cant scale to someone that literally one shot you
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Like I said way earlier in the thread, I'm fine with just about anything at this point but if we do give him the Possibly Rating then would Walter get 8-B, possibly 8-B+ with Wires since he casually tore apart Alucard who's feat is literally a 0.09% Difference from the plus sign.
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If Alucard's durability varies it is better to put a note on the page
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Yeah I think that's fine.
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Wouldn't walters wire do alot more damage because of surface area and stuff.
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Same with bullets, this, that, the other thing, we could invalidate his 8-B calc with that logic.
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what walter calc
XSOULOFCINDERX
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This sort of thing was already discussed at length awhile ago
Also the Manga one is way smaller, and at that, I remember him only really vaguely being intact after the fact. It's a bit more of a gray area when a durability feat is something that requires plenty of regeneration.
Also the Manga one is way smaller, and at that, I remember him only really vaguely being intact after the fact. It's a bit more of a gray area when a durability feat is something that requires plenty of regeneration.
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Assuming the manga scaling is true.
Using ground burst instead of air burst given it's a giant ass explosion caused on impact with a battleship.
14.734^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 0.25706769993.
That's actually 8-C which is neat.
Using ground burst instead of air burst given it's a giant ass explosion caused on impact with a battleship.
14.734^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 0.25706769993.
That's actually 8-C which is neat.
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But the aftermath of the scene is just wierd in the manga, depending on the shot either all of the boat is on fire, the front is kinda on fire, the water around the boat is also on fire and or the front isn't (while it's pritty clear the hall of the ship is fine though) on fire (also the plane just vanished.) The scope of this who scene is just weird, the anime makes it clear and since the anime is a pritty faithful adaptation in other categories it makes sense to use it.
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The thing is that the manga version shows such a limited prespective that it doesn't prove or disprove the anime version.
Also, something extra mentioned in the old calc comments; the KE of the plane crashing is:
69000/2*(3.3*343)^2 = 44201317545 J = 10.564 tnt tons (Large Building level+)
Also, something extra mentioned in the old calc comments; the KE of the plane crashing is:
69000/2*(3.3*343)^2 = 44201317545 J = 10.564 tnt tons (Large Building level+)
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You still see the explosion, which is what's being calculated. Them not wanting to draw a perfect model of a ship that had an explosion on it's surface is irrelevant.
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I cannot illustrate this enough, it just blatantly, overtly shows the explosion in full detail. I don't get what's hard about this.
This is in fact what an explosion looks like, guys. Sometimes it's just not City Block level and thus vastly inconsistent with every other showing in the verse, such as the scene immediately after this one where he gets hit with a simple 9-A Panzerfaust round and looks like this:
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This was explained earlier
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I was talking about thisMy solution is to scale to the coffin which 100% either tanked the explosion undamaged, or had Alucard protect it with shadows.
The coffin also happens to be a sentient monster thing.
As for the anti-feats, it appears to be Alucard allowing himself to be hurt, either because he is a ********* or he enjoys showing off on his opponents with his immortality. He scales to True Vampire Seras and Alexander Anderson.
Seras and Anderson have no issue tanking normal machinegun bullets.
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The argument is that he is a ********* and therefore allows himself to be hurt (as far as I remember Alucard himself said that he likes to get hurt in battle), which would support the fact that 9-A hurts him because Alucard is a madman and not because he is a 9-B. What support (again) this is that his coffin can withstand a massive explosion above 9-A, which contains his powers
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The explosion was calced 8-C to high 8-C so umm
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Assuming the manga scaling is true.
Using ground burst instead of air burst given it's a giant ass explosion caused on impact with a battleship.
14.734^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 0.25706769993.
That's actually 8-C which is neat.
PD: i didnt do the math, chariot did it i am just copy pasting it
Using ground burst instead of air burst given it's a giant ass explosion caused on impact with a battleship.
14.734^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 0.25706769993.
That's actually 8-C which is neat.
PD: i didnt do the math, chariot did it i am just copy pasting it
The_Pink_God
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A current reminder that Alucard tanked that explosion while on Level 1
Afterward, he was on the base form
Afterward, he was on the base form
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Wait, how do we know he was in level 1 and then went down?
The_Pink_God
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He used his shadows to slaughter the soldiers (Baskerville seems to briefly appear too) and to pull the ship together. Would be contrived to claim he briefly shut down the restrains and then impetuously opened them up again.
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Bump.
So is the 8-B upgrade getting applied?
The fragmentation of reinforced concrete is now lower, so the building fragmentation is now High 8-C+.
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DMUA argued that the context of the calc doesn't fit because building came apart on its own like in the anime:
Which properly applies on some buildings.
However in the building getting calced this interpretation does not explain the horizontal cut + heavy fragmentation + building being blasted high in the air:
So is the 8-B upgrade getting applied?
The fragmentation of reinforced concrete is now lower, so the building fragmentation is now High 8-C+.
Hellsing: Walter Flexing his Wires on Buildings
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DMUA argued that the context of the calc doesn't fit because building came apart on its own like in the anime:
Which properly applies on some buildings.
However in the building getting calced this interpretation does not explain the horizontal cut + heavy fragmentation + building being blasted high in the air:
