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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Yeah, actually, that’s quite a common thing.
But it’s possible to replicate someone else’s ki signature if there’s any trace of that being — whether genetic or spiritual.
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Does flying the Nimbus Cloud counts as Free Movement ?
MichaelCalistro
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Question, why does Great Ape Gohan scales to Grandpa Gohan when Goku killed Gohan when he was asleep? Not to mention, who to say that Gohan didn't train in the Afterlife since he fought against a stronger version of Goku?
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I don't see why it wouldn't just be Flight.
Eden_Warlock99
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Y'all hear this guy??
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MichaelCalistro
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Is anyone going to answer or am I intentionally being ignored because I made God angry, I think?
Nullflowerblush
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That's just a mechanic of the Kinto'un.
Nullflowerblush
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Does Super Perfect Cell have any scaling outside of Super Saiyan 2 Gohan to build off of?
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No? I guess, or you could scale him to..........Dabura?, but Dabura scales to Adult SSJ2 Gohan who.......well......weaker than his Cell Saga self?
Nullflowerblush
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He was a normal Super Saiyan; and I only ask because Babidi Saga SS Gohan at full power—and presumably Cell Games Saga SS Gohan—is repeatedly considered to be vastly superior to Dabura alongside Goku and Vegeta by Goku and Vegeta.
MichaelCalistro
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Nevermind, I will just leave this planet and go to a different planet since no one can see me.
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Not that I know of? He appears and is either as strong, stronger, or slightly weaker than SSJ2 Teen Gohan (depending on the guide, but most agree he's stronger, actually). Then Dabura is "on his level" to some extent. Gohan fights Dabura as a SSJ (or SSJ2, depending on if you think guides count, since Dai.7 says it WAS SSJ2 Gohan), but Dabura was holding back, so it's unclear as to how Gohan's performance indicates his level. Then when Goku and Vegeta fight they're just vaguely more powerful than SSJ2 Teen Gohan and all other scaling is chainscaling off him directly.
You'd have to find a guide that gives explicit reference to Cell's power relative to Gohan to go off of, honestly.
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Why would this be a 50x boost? He’s using Grade 3. (Or a variation of it, at least).
I’m doubtful of this considering how Gohan explicitly could not match up to his prior self and most guides agree Cell became as strong or stronger than Gohan upon Revival. Additionally, Dabura held back and Gohan was in a fight considered “fairly even.”
Dabura’s Bio, Dai. 7:
So I’d probably make Babidi SS and SS2 Gohan closer to Dabura.
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Think it's referring to when Gohan threw that Kamehameha at Buu's Sealed Ball and Dabura was scared shitless
Nullflowerblush
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Because Super Saiyan is a 50x boost.
Gohan was also far from his full power. We haven't seen either Cell Games Saga or Babidi Saga Gohan use their full power before; however, we have it on good authority (Goku and Vegeta) that even the latter could easily handle Dabura as a Super Saiyan, which also massively upscales the former.
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On a side note, would Goku surviving the bankoku bikkuri sho grant him any greater heat resistance?
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Probably not unless it's directly compared to something like lightning; otherwise it's unknown.
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Yeah, but Cell is going Grade 3 relative to his standard state, which acts like SSJ already. It would be more accurate to be like, 10x his Perfect Form or something. Not 50.
The full power they refer to is a hypothetical rage amp, though. When Gohan goes SSJ2 in front of Kibito, Vegeta outright says his peak has diminished. Vegeta even comments later when they’re in Babidi’s ship that “he’s completely fallen behind us, but you never know what happens when Gohan gets into one of his frenzy’s.” The general idea I’m trying to convey is that Gohan’s max available power Gohan has that they’re referencing and what Goku is talking about are two different things.
When Goku says “You can beat anyone if you get mad,” he means the boundless strength Gohan seems to muster from rage. Not SSJ2, mind you, because they already saw a commented on how weak his SSJ2 was. It’s the general idea of how Gohan can create power where he has none. In terms of actual, functional use for the reference points they state, they mean the actual power Gohan has on hand to use. Hence why even Vegeta himself makes the distinction.
So, Full Power Gohan should be lower. Or it should really just be renamed “Crashing Out” instead of Full Power on that part of the tree.
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this scene was cold
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from lurking around, me noticed that DB readers are much more critical compared to Manhwa readers, which is a good thing.
They seem to throw around the term "peak" as if it doesnt mean anything, or excuse terrible arcs like no other. If you disagree with them, they come up with arguments like "Billions of people read it, so it must be peak" XD
Some saue for guys who dont know how manhwas numbers work
""" What a lot of people don’t seem to realize is that the webtoon industry suffers from fake views, likes, and subscriptions, and all of that is free. The way views are counted doesn’t really help either. Solo Leveling might be the only one where the numbers actually ""match"" its real popularity.
Lookism for example got 10 billion views, I highly doubt 1 billion people actually read it. It’s probably more like 10 million webtoon fans overall. Out of those, maybe 5 million read the first few chapters and then dropped it. Then like 2.5 million stuck around until around chapter 200, but dropped it once the whole 'gang' stuff started. The rest probably caught up to the latest chapters. And then you’ve got maybe 100,000 hardcore fans who keep rereading or jumping to certain chapters. And finally, like 1,000 powerscaling nerds who go through Lookism 100 times a day just to back up their arguments.
Disclaimer: I made up these numbers, but the proportions feel about right. That 1% of hardcore fans is probably responsible for a big chunk of Webtoon’s total views just from constantly rechecking chapters for debates.
That being said, Lookism has been on Webtoon since late 2014, so 10 billion total views over that time actually makes sense. I mean, there are YouTube videos like Baby Shark with 13 billion views and that’s just one video since 2016. Lookism has over 400 chapters.
If you asked 8 random people, only one might even know what Lookism is, haha.
TL;DR Webtoons big risk """"
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You referring to both Chinese and Korean type Webtoons and Light Novels?
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What even is the general consensus for what the fandom wants in terms of the next big animation project?
A DBS Kai?
A DBS continuation?
Another movie?
Another Daima?
A crossover?
A DBS Kai?
A DBS continuation?
Another movie?
Another Daima?
A crossover?
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With what exactly?
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do you mean the part with the pink sunglasses takes? mostly from verses ive read like goh, lookism etc
if you mean the numbers, everyone of them should work the same way, that big number is adding up all the views from every single chapter
I dont know light novels, no amount of money will make me read them
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I mean you can sale the high seas bro I do that frequently (Pirating)I dont know light novels, no amount of money will make me read them
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I mean there was that special where DBZ, OP and Toriko had a crossover with each other.
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Alright than give us that Sonic x DBZ crossover
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im settled with mangas and animes for now, maybe someday comics, and then maybe, maybe light novels
as of right now ive only read a handful of mangas
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Based on? His normal form is his normal form. Only once is Cell ever explicitly described as becoming a Super Saiyan, and it's when he becomes a Third Grade Super Saiyan before Trunks. You'd think if his normal form was a Super Saiyan equivalent like Super Baby is, or if he ever did use Super Saiyan outside of his Powerhouse form, or if he was a Super Saiyan 2 after regenerating, it'd be confirmed or clarified by supplemental material like his Third Grade usage was.
Also, Third Grade Super Saiyan being ten-times as strong as the previous form isn't currently accepted anymore. It doesn't really make sense either.
Yes? Gohan's "rage amps" are how he taps into his full power; his Battle Power is directly linked to his emotions. It's not like he gains a 1,000x yūki boost beyond his limits from getting angry, he just releases his subconscious restrictions more and more when he's highly emotional—like Mob.
He musters boundless strength from rage because he possesses a boundless amount of dormant power, and he gains control over more of it proportionate to the strength of his fighting spirit. The only reason he couldn't draw upon that same level of strength he had before is because he hadn't trained for almost seven full years and had grown out of shape, with both his body and spirit too dull to properly harness his full strength.
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Yeah but DB fans don't actually read the series with a true understanding of it, so they just sound dumb when trying to give criticism.from lurking around, me noticed that DB readers are much more critical compared to Manhwa readers, which is a good thing.
They seem to throw around the term "peak" as if it doesnt mean anything, or excuse terrible arcs like no other. If you disagree with them, they come up with arguments like "Billions of people read it, so it must be peak" XD
Some saue for guys who dont know how manhwas numbers work
""" What a lot of people don’t seem to realize is that the webtoon industry suffers from fake views, likes, and subscriptions, and all of that is free. The way views are counted doesn’t really help either. Solo Leveling might be the only one where the numbers actually ""match"" its real popularity.
Lookism for example got 10 billion views, I highly doubt 1 billion people actually read it. It’s probably more like 10 million webtoon fans overall. Out of those, maybe 5 million read the first few chapters and then dropped it. Then like 2.5 million stuck around until around chapter 200, but dropped it once the whole 'gang' stuff started. The rest probably caught up to the latest chapters. And then you’ve got maybe 100,000 hardcore fans who keep rereading or jumping to certain chapters. And finally, like 1,000 powerscaling nerds who go through Lookism 100 times a day just to back up their arguments.
Disclaimer: I made up these numbers, but the proportions feel about right. That 1% of hardcore fans is probably responsible for a big chunk of Webtoon’s total views just from constantly rechecking chapters for debates.
That being said, Lookism has been on Webtoon since late 2014, so 10 billion total views over that time actually makes sense. I mean, there are YouTube videos like Baby Shark with 13 billion views and that’s just one video since 2016. Lookism has over 400 chapters.
If you asked 8 random people, only one might even know what Lookism is, haha.
TL;DR Webtoons big risk """"
Nullflowerblush
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Any idea involving adapting the DBS manga or, God forbid, remaking the anime—DB or DBS—sucks. I genuinely cannot fathom why anybody would want a rethread of readily available material instead of another original story.
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Kinda funny Sonic has sorta become the bridge between East and West IPs in terms of crossovers. Since we recently had Sonic x DC in IDW and in Sonic Crossworlds there's Minecraft, Pac-Man, Mega-Man, SpongeBob SquarePants, etc.
That said, do fans still trust Dragon Ball with Toei?
Nullflowerblush
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Granted, "electric shock" (電撃) is a generic term attributed to a number of different electricity-based techniques, including the Pirate Robot's generator-based electric blast, Buyon and Piccolo's Antenna Beam, and Cymbal's lightning attacks. None of them are Ki Manipulation Techniques; all of them involve amplifying an electric current to levels far exceeding the few billion of joules/s produced by lightning. Could easily make an argument that all of them are lightning attacks.
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Are we really saying that Grade 3 makes you over x50 slower? And like, why the hell would Cell jump to Grade 3, a power-up he straight up calls useless, and not, ya know, SSJ, if he was apparently just hiding it all that time?
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