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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

KaramcaS said:
Super Saiyan Blue = God Ki + Super Saiyan

Super Saiyan Rose = Kai God Ki + Super Saiyan
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Super Saiyan Blue is not, never has been, and never will be simply "God Ki plus Super Saiyan".

The Super Saiyan God is a god of the Saiyans—a divine being, possessing all of the inherent qualities of a god (e.g., God Ki, Aura of a God, etc.), born of a Saiyan—created when six righteous Saiyans combine their energies, enabling the transformation. Only gods can possess God Ki, and being a god, Super Saiyan God naturally possesses God Ki; but Super Saiyan God is not enabled through God Ki because a mortal cannot possess God Ki. Likewise, SSGSS is not simply enabled through using God Ki as a normal Super Saiyan because a normal Super Saiyan cannot use God Ki; SSGSS is "merely a powered-up version of Super Saiyan God".

In other news, Frieza's Death Ball is supposedly "similar" to Kid Buu's Planet Burst.
Single Attack that Destroys the Earth
First Appearance: 508
Category: ki manipulation
People: Majin Buu (pure)
Special Characteristics: A technique where he levitates a gigantic spherical ki over the palm of his hand, then strikes the ground with it. Through the ki’s power, the magma within the Earth swells and explodes. This technique wiped out the Earth without leaving a trace remaining. Freeza also uses a similar technique. (Daizenshuu 2, p. 216)
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The chain reaction destruction of Namek being through the expansion of magma within is surprisingly appropriate, given: (1) the yellow clouds became gray as time passed, which can be caused by the gases trapped inside of magma, and eventually surrounded the entire planet with tornadoes forming on the surface, likely due to the sheer amount of volcanic ash in the atmosphere; (2) lightning erupted from within and around the planet, which can be caused by the static electricity generated within clouds of volcanic ash; and (3) the planet began contracting as time passed—y'know, because of the magma steadily swelling underneath its surface. Earth Manipulation? Could that be calculated?
 
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Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
SSB God ki + Evil intentions= SSJ Rose.
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Evil intentions do not modify transformations. Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 4, Super Saiyan God, and Super Saiyan Blue are all largely unaffected by, for example: Dark Ki, Evil Aura (i.e., the Power of Evil), evil intentions absorbed by Commeson, Villainous Mode, or Babidi's Majin Awakening.
 
I thought the explanation for Rosé was that it's unique to Goku Black because he was a Supreme Kai in a Saiyan's body? Hell depending on the continuity it's not even his version of Blue, it's his version of Super Saiyan like in the anime and Heroes.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Super Saiyan Blue is not, never has been, and never will be simply "God Ki plus Super Saiyan".

The Super Saiyan God is a god of the Saiyans—a divine being, possessing all of the inherent qualities of a god (e.g., God Ki, Aura of a God, etc.), born of a Saiyan—created when six righteous Saiyans combine their energies, enabling the transformation. Only gods can possess God Ki, and being a god, Super Saiyan God naturally possesses God Ki; but Super Saiyan God is not enabled through God Ki because a mortal cannot possess God Ki. Likewise, SSGSS is not simply enabled through using God Ki as a normal Super Saiyan because a normal Super Saiyan cannot use God Ki; SSGSS is "merely a powered-up version of Super Saiyan God".

In other news, Frieza's Death Ball is supposedly "similar" to Kid Buu's Planet Burst.

The chain reaction destruction of Namek being through the expansion of magma within is surprisingly appropriate, given: (1) the yellow clouds became gray as time passed, which can be caused by the gases trapped inside of magma, and eventually surrounded the entire planet with tornadoes forming on the surface, likely due to the sheer amount of volcanic ash in the atmosphere; (2) lightning erupted from within and around the planet, which can be caused by the static electricity generated within clouds of volcanic ash; and (3) the planet began contracting as time passed—y'know, because of the magma steadily swelling underneath its surface. Earth Manipulation? Could that be calculated?
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This was brought up at one point with Planet Vegeta, I believe, and denied. I cannot remember why.
 
Robo432343 said:
great
because of you no one wants to comment on my db match ups
all the db supporters who comment in vs matches are gone/self banned
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Well, I'm ngl, you are kind of a troll sometimes.
Your jokes usually get too far, and spite matches are not uncommon in your forum history...
And your wording sounds like you teasing people everytime and that pisses off a lot of us....

I'm sure more than one person has found your occasional behaviour a bit annoying....

Nothing personal, all of us have our pros and cons.

Strive to be better
 
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Robo432343 said:
am I worse than omegabronic
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Nor better or worse than him...

All of us have our own flaws, no one is perfect..
I just recommend you to tone it down a bit..
I mean, don't be all the time acting trolly or making spite matches for the sake of entertaiment....
Just respect people, don't mock fandoms's disgraces such as downgrade crts, etc.

Don't post memes all the time either, don't belittle or downtalk people like u usually do...


It's up to you to change or not.
 
I wonder, is it possible to get an accurate measurement of Planet Vegeta based on the angled shot it has when Earth is in the foreground and P.Vegeta is in the background by accounting for the distance necessary to create the way it looks there relative to the planet? (Like, for instance, the way the Sun appears in the sky isn’t accurate due to being so far away it appears smaller than it is.) At least for the Toei Continuity. Or is it not possible to calculate what the size of a celestial object should be based on just those variables and its known gravity?

 
RedReaper616 said:
I wonder, is it possible to get an accurate measurement of Planet Vegeta based on the angled shot it has when Earth is in the foreground and P.Vegeta is in the background by accounting for the distance necessary to create the way it looks there relative to the planet? (Like, for instance, the way the Sun appears in the sky isn’t accurate due to being so far away it appears smaller than it is.) At least for the Toei Continuity. Or is it not possible to calculate what the size of a celestial object should be based on just those variables and its known gravity?

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Using visuals as reference in DB is literally the worst thing you can do.
The Universe is Infinite (atleast Toei) backed up by show statements (GT)....
Yet Heaven appears as a giant Planet but Official sources stated over and over is the size of the living Universe.

Visuals in Dragon Ball are a joke.

Eyeballing for scaling ends up wrong most of the time
 
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MeiouHades said:
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I saw that the typical "Dragon Ball shared worldview" was accepted, congratulations to TiltedFN and you.

I'm curious about what you two will do with this now.
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Using visuals as reference in DB is literally the worst thing you can do.
The Universe is Infinite (atleast Toei) backed up by show statements (GT)....
Yet Heaven appears as a giant Planet but Official sources stated over and over is the size of the living Universe.

Visuals in Dragon Ball are a joke.

Eyeballing for scaling ends up wrong most of the time
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I disagree with this view, and infinite size things can have edges anyway, so it not relevant. Especially because this isn’t Heaven. This is an ordinary planet.
 
RedReaper616 said:
I disagree with this view, and infinite size things can have edges anyway, so it not relevant. Especially because this isn’t Heaven. This is an ordinary planet.
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That's your view and I respect it, I was just talking on how Heaven was portrayed in the anime.

But you can't deny one thing.....there is nothing contradicting Toei or DBS to have an Infinite Universe.
GT even said there are boundless galaxies.
These statements from the show are backed up by the Daizenshu are not mere poetry.

Even the Dragon world guides states that "Gods administrate galaxies that exist infinitely in the cosmic space"..
 
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Goku says his match against Krillin during the 22nd was the most fun he had ever had in his life, which EML does attribute to Krillin's "magnificent grappling techniques". Does that mean he's more powerful than Tao Pai Pai? And, better question, why exactly do we currently scale 22nd mid-tiers higher than Tao Pai Pai without any justification?
 
Like all other entries, DB Official Site's Weekly ☆ Character Showcase entry for the Farmer with a Battle Power of 5 includes a preview for the upcoming entry: First Form Frieza, who is described as the character who "has a Power Level 106,000 times greater than this poor old farmer's!" (530,000). More curiously, though, the Japanese version says: 戦闘力5のおじさんの106000倍強いあの人, which is "the person 106,000 times stronger than the old man with a Battle Power of 5"; as in, Frieza does not simply possess a Battle Power reading 106,000 times higher than the farmer's, his actual strength is 106,000 times greater than the farmer's.

The farmer explicitly and officially downscales from Frieza by 106,000 times.

The agenda is alive.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Like all other entries, DB Official Site's Weekly ☆ Character Showcase entry for the Farmer with a Battle Power of 5 includes a preview for the upcoming entry: First Form Frieza, who is described as the character who "has a Power Level 106,000 times greater than this poor old farmer's!" (530,000). More curiously, though, the Japanese version says: 戦闘力5のおじさんの106000倍強いあの人, which is "the person 106,000 times stronger than the old man with a Battle Power of 5"; as in, Frieza does not simply possess a Battle Power reading 106,000 times higher than the farmer's, his actual strength is 106,000 times greater than the farmer's.

The farmer explicitly and officially downscales from Frieza by 106,000 times.

The agenda is alive.
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How fast would farmer be if we accepted a proportional speed decrease from Frieza (Of course I don't think we will because rules), just curious?
 
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