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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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No, it's the truth, Goku is not a conventional hero, nor is he an anti-hero like Vegeta.
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Yes, I am being dead serious right now. It's true that Goku doesn't fit the mold of a traditional hero, as Toriyama designed him to be like, but to say he would let innocent people get hurt just for the sake of a good fight is completely ridiculous.
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Goku didn't revive Frieza post ToP. In fact he never had any intention of reviving him. Whis was the one who did that.
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Could you provide some examples for goku? If they existed, im sure people would gladly agree
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You’re right lol, mb
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majin buu?Cell?Moro?BEERUS?
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In fact, it partly fits his personality a bit, a bit.
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No, it doesn't
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It's far more damaging to Goku. Sure, Sonic can have his equal attention cake, but this dude has been glazing Sonic since the beginning. It's typical Sonic fan G.D.S
Yeah sonic isn't being written well either, but Goku is not that aloof
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I don't agree that he is glazing Sonic, because, if so, the fight should have already been over, Goku is resisting MUCH more than he should.
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Moro is the only half way decent example here and even then it doesn't really fit
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Not really, it is equally damaging, Sonic's character is much more polarized than Goku's
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Lmao no
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Could you be a bit more specific?
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Fr like... Beerus was going to destroy it one way or the other, how was that Goku's fault?
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By VSBW standards maybe, but most of the rest of the internet has this fight being way more debatable
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then it is just a Sonic bias i guess because people apparently don't watch the games, the more like 50 games (i am doing a wrong estimation)
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do i need to be more specific?
Spinoirr
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Sonic is holding back given he's rn only using 40% of his Super forms power
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but it's the truth, many people believe firmly, and without joking, that Sonic is just supersonic MAXIMUM, it is at the same level of people thinking Goku is faster than light, MAXIMUM.
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Super forms do not have percentages of suppressed power, they have boost forms, which are like an aura around you, but that's it.
But hey, I'm not going to complain about that part.
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Thinking Sonic is only Supersonic is as unreasonable as thinking Goku is FTL?
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but you get the idea
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Alexander, why you bringing up Beerus as a "example" of Goku endangering innocent people? That example doesn't really work when you consider that:
A) Goku had to become a Super Saiyan God and fight Beerus, otherwise the latter would've simply destroyed the planet.
B) Beerus was so much stronger than Goku back then that the thought of Goku defeating him is laughable
And C) the thought of Earth being destroyed and his friends dying fueled Goku's motivation enough to make him break through his limits and destroy the attack which was going to destroy the planet in his base form.
If anything, I think that whole exchange goes to show that Goku is willing to go past his limits and beyond for the sake of his friends and the planet he was raised on.
A) Goku had to become a Super Saiyan God and fight Beerus, otherwise the latter would've simply destroyed the planet.
B) Beerus was so much stronger than Goku back then that the thought of Goku defeating him is laughable
And C) the thought of Earth being destroyed and his friends dying fueled Goku's motivation enough to make him break through his limits and destroy the attack which was going to destroy the planet in his base form.
If anything, I think that whole exchange goes to show that Goku is willing to go past his limits and beyond for the sake of his friends and the planet he was raised on.
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Generally just saying names isn’t very useful so yeah
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Yes, but we must also remember that he was the one who insisted on fighting Beerus, which made him go to earth, unless it was already planned for him to go to earth in the same way, with goku or without him
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Lol yes
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Beerus was going to Earth anyway when he realized Goku knew nothing about the Super Saiyan God. Shit argument.
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Lmao no, it's not even close/debatable. Stop trying to get your equal attention cake. This was a discussion about Goku's character
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No it's just another stupid take tbh
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1. He let Vegeta go, knowing that the guy could be a great danger, even Krillin told him that he is a great danger, even so Goku considered that he could defeat him later.
2. He gave energy to Freeza, which allowed him to return as a Freeza wick and if it weren't for Trunks, everyone would go to shit (not to literal hell)
3. everything that was the final part of his fight with Cell, yes, he stopped Cell from destroying the earth, but he was also the one who gave him a seed from the hermit and sent Gohan to fight, even though, for What did he do? To let his son fight Cell and recover to his full potential???
4. Majin Buu, he could have defeated him, even if he had a time limit, he had ENOUGH time to defeat him, but no, he passed the responsability to goten and trunks...and we know how that ended up at the end.
5. the final part, Moro merged with the earth
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can i have at least one good take for you?
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Bro, how was Goku suppose to know that Beerus was going to go to Earth? All he wanted was to fight him, Beerus went to Earth after knocking out Goku because he thought that the other Saiyans would know about a Super Saiyan God.
Plus, Goku ended up saving the Earth after Beerus was about to destroy it by producing a Super Saiyan God and giving Beerus a satisfying enough fight to make him spare Earth.
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Don't you think that Kaio sama's warnings were not enough?
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Goku letting Vegeta go ending up paying off. They don't survive Namek without him. So you are listing a situation where Goku is right, and even then, Vegeta was no threat at that point.
Goku thought he killed Frieza. When he sensed him on Earth he was going to IT to Earth to kill them but he felt Trunks' energy.
Gohan failing to lock in is his fault. Goku was right that only Gohan could stop Cell and save the world. Giving Cell the senzu made Cell confident enough to push Gohan to snapping, ensuring he unlocked SSJ2.
Goku wanted the next generation to be able to defend the world as after seeing how strong SSJ2 Gohan was he was focused on finding a successor. Gotenks and mostly Gohan failed to lock in. Goku probably wasn't right to trust them, or not to kill Buu right away (given how tough Buu is to put down and how casual he was against SSJ3 Goku, there was a chance he used up all his time before being able to finish the job, screwing the planet).
This isn't Goku really being reckless as it is too trusting.
Same thing with Moro. Except Goku was straight up going to kill Moro until Moro revealed he could fuse with the planet. And guess what saved them, Uub. A result of Goku's actions against Buu.
Goku keeps showing mercy because he keeps making new friends who help save the world.
Your take aways are shit lol
