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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
If Goku couldn't use his ability, then it's enough to qualify I believe
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If I got the context right, Goku could use his ability, he just couldn't locate Trunks with it.

He can sense Ki, that's why he realized the energy was all messed up there; it's just that the energy being all messed up makes him unable to distinguish ki and catch Trunks'
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
If I got the context right, Goku could use his ability, he just couldn't locate Trunks with it.

He can sense Ki, that's why he realized the energy was all messed up there; it's just that the energy being all messed up makes him unable to distinguish ki and catch Trunks'
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Messing up someone's perception does also count, I think
 
Messing up with someone's perception should not grant power null in no world.

If you know a verse which has PN for that, then please do a CRT to remove it.
 
It does not mess with senses, it messes with Ki sensing, which is Extrasensorial Perception.

Given how Goku described it, unless there is something else, yeah, I guess it should be listed as Energy Manipulation and specify it messes with the energy in a way locating a specific Ki might be impossible
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
It does not mess with senses, it messes with Ki sensing, which is Extrasensorial Perception.

Given how Goku described it, unless there is something else, yeah, I guess it should be listed as Energy Manipulation and specify it messes with the energy in a way locating a specific Ki might be impossible
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Ok, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer this question
 
Omegabronic said:
He talked about a situation in the OG Manga and gave an explanation with something of the DBS Anime, if one isn't canon to the other, then said explanation can't be used

Also, why the tone? Are you ok?
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Honestly it's because your insistence of that at any instant annoys me. This is the super thread everything is about super. It dosen't matter that they used a Manga panel as reference there simply nothing wrong about responding to it from the perspective of super sense that is literally what this thread is and has always been.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Honestly it's because your insistence of that at any instant annoys me. This is the super thread everything is about super. It dosen't matter that they used a Manga panel as reference there simply nothing wrong about responding to it from the perspective of super sense that is literally what this thread is and has always been.
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......insistence of what? It was accepted that DBS Anime follows the DBZ KAI continuity, not the OG Manga.......blame the ones who made that accepted, not me, i am not even saying no one is allowed to talk about both anime and manga here, just that obviously you can't use one continuity as evidence for another separated continuity, that is basic for all verses here, not just DB, it would be like using stuff from the Archie comics as evidence for Game Sonic, for example
 
Omegabronic said:
......insistence of what? It was accepted that DBS Anime follows the DBZ KAI continuity, not the OG Manga.......blame the ones who made that accepted, not me, i am not even saying no one is allowed to talk about both anime and manga here, just that obviously you can't use one continuity as evidence for another separated continuity, that is basic for all verses here, not just DB, it would be like using stuff from the Archie comics as evidence for Game Sonic, for example
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That dosen't really work in this context sense the events of the orginal manga happened almost exactly as is in every other relevant continuity.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
That dosen't really work in this context sense the events of the orginal manga happened almost exactly as is in every other relevant continuity.
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......so? they happened the same in Heroes as well for example, we can't use Heroes stuff for the OG Manga or the DBS Anime continuities still, does some events happens similarly? yes, does that mean all information of said different continuity can be used universally for all continuities? no
 
just saw a clip on YT of Beerus and some of the Uni 7 fighters debating whether to let A17 and A 18 fuse, that would've been such a cool thing to see in canon (I heard Super 17 fused with 18 in Super Dragon Ball Hereos?). If they went through with the plan to make them fuse and they actually did, how strong do you think they would've been, and how well do you think Uni 7 would've done. Better, or worse?
 
Nierre said:
just saw a clip on YT of Beerus and some of the Uni 7 fighters debating whether to let A17 and A 18 fuse, that would've been such a cool thing to see in canon (I heard Super 17 fused with 18 in Super Dragon Ball Hereos?). If they went through with the plan to make them fuse and they actually did, how strong do you think they would've been, and how well do you think Uni 7 would've done. Better, or worse?
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Considering 17 is as strong as SSB goku (somehow) and SS fighters at SS2 could rival ultra instinct it may have even been stronger then jiern sense there would probably be some sort of 'sibling boost' given there twins and very in sync
 
Nierre said:
just saw a clip on YT of Beerus and some of the Uni 7 fighters debating whether to let A17 and A 18 fuse, that would've been such a cool thing to see in canon (I heard Super 17 fused with 18 in Super Dragon Ball Hereos?). If they went through with the plan to make them fuse and they actually did, how strong do you think they would've been, and how well do you think Uni 7 would've done. Better, or worse?
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Unironically might be Jiren level.

Zeno would totally allow it too. Now, Krillin would probably get taken out way earlier, so Android 35/Android 1718 would have to do the work of 3 people, but they probably could.
 
SlendVeny said:
Unironically might be Jiren level.

Zeno would totally allow it too. Now, Krillin would probably get taken out way earlier, so Android 35/Android 1718 would have to do the work of 3 people, but they probably could.
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hey ur the writer here, make a what-if /hj
 
Omegabronic said:
that is the DBS Anime, not canon to the OG Manga
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I posted a scene from the DBS Anime to illustrate an ability that is defined in the Daizenshuu. Which is stated to range from observing the world with eyesight alone to using a crystal ball (like Elder Kai) to perceive events. The only reason I posted a clip from the anime is to visualise it for people.

But sure let's say that there's no evidence that Shin has the ability to use this via vision in the original manga. Does DBZ Kai have the same scene of SS3 Goku's Ki reaching the Kaioshin Realm? I would assume so. In which case it would be relevant there at least.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
I think we should accept The Legendary Manga's comparison of Shin and Cell Games Saga SS Goku again.
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Didn't it also state that Buu Saga Piccolo was comparable to SS Cell Games Goku, causing a contradiction? Or is it the exact same scan under a different interpretation?
 
CryoTheMayo said:
I posted a scene from the DBS Anime to illustrate an ability that is defined in the Daizenshuu. Which is stated to range from observing the world with eyesight alone to using a crystal ball (like Elder Kai) to perceive events. The only reason I posted a clip from the anime is to visualise it for people.

But sure let's say that there's no evidence that Shin has the ability to use this via vision in the original manga. Does DBZ Kai have the same scene of SS3 Goku's Ki reaching the Kaioshin Realm? I would assume so. In which case it would be relevant there at least.
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huh, that is good then, and yeah, it would be for Kai.......in fact, i made a calc for it a while ago when the cosmology was composited
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DBZ, SSJ3 Ki Expansion

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i guess we would just need to adjust it with the correct sizes now
 
Nullflowerblush said:
You may be thinking of this.

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I can't open this for some reason, so I only see the preview. It's basically saying Piccolo and Vegeta are fighting people who Goku couldn't beat due to being sick, right? And then something about the three of them being fighters or whatever, idk, I'm kinda shit at Spanish.
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
About Goku black's Scythe technique.
We know it blocked Goku's ki sensing.

But, shouldn't it be listed as power null, or extrasensory perception negation instead of Ki negation?

The technique seems to neg the ability overall, negs extrasensory perception, so there is no proof it wouldn't work on other energy types.
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Power Nullification actually works. It would just be power null for ESP abilities
 
SlendVeny said:
I can't open this for some reason, so I only see the preview. It's basically saying Piccolo and Vegeta are fighting people who Goku couldn't beat due to being sick, right? And then something about the three of them being fighters or whatever, idk, I'm kinda shit at Spanish.
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"Vegeta y Piccolo se lucen frente a unos rivales a los que Goku no pudo derrotar debido a su enfermedad. Los tres años de entrenamiento les han permitido lograr una fuerza de combante impresionante."

"Vegeta and Piccolo stand off against opponent whom Goku was unable to defeat due to his illness. Three years of training have allowed them to achieve an impressive level of combat strength."

The text implies that Piccolo is of similiar strength to the likes of Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta after their three years of training.
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Basically, yeah.
 
Movie revisions talk happening
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Meta Cooler upgrade?

As long as the Daizenshuu 6 statement holds up key parts of the narrative the rest can be looked over as issues with the production team. Remember folks, guides can only be used if they don't contradict the source material. If the source material itself is a contradiction, well then goddamn...
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You know it just hits me with all the "it's counterdicted" we get for infinte and immeasurable speed, why dose sonic have those when he has the anti feat generator that is IDW on him
 
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