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You're exaggerating, an anime would never explain these things, and I really doubt something like that has an explanation
Tell me a teleport that has this?
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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Tell me a teleport that has this?
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Even if they scaled to the IT it'd be a massive outlier so... kek
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how was 2x ssj2 and 4x ssj3 considered a outlier lol
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Hades is kil
No
No
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Not really, if we’re talking Toei Goku. It’d just be like “Infinite Within IT Dimension,” and then MFTL+ normally. Goku and Cooler only achieved that speed via that Dimension, and Vegeta actively can’t react to them despite being Goku’s equal.
For Super Goku? Ehhh, probably an outlier, yeah. Granolah out moved “Faster IT” twice and then Goku fought a stronger and faster Gas, but we clearly see that his IT is able to make him appear to match Goku mid fight even though he vanished explicitly after by a few panels.
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You fool, his instant transmission got instanter.
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Anyways, Hades is now in Brazil, nobody told him only verse opponents and mods get away with that kind of behavior. RIP 1895-2023
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Yep. Somehow, that is literally what happened. Fiction man…fiction.
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Narratively, causality and reason are kinda just suggestions to the cast at this point.
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Dmc characters have immeasurable speed for a mention similar to this one.
Fax, they always used the word "dimension" out of context to wank dc to infinite dimensional, and it turns out that dc cosmology is not even outerversal as was believed.
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Worth trying?
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considering that the BoG feat is the basis of dbs speed scaling, everyone would
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First things first, we’d have to prove “faster than instant transmission” refers to outpacing the instantaneous spatial displacement rather than being faster than the time it takes for Goku to raise his fingers and activate IT in the first place. There’s gotta be at least one panel like that, right? Where Goku disappears, and Gas/Granolah or someone else arrives before Goku reappears somewhere else?
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instantly=/=0 time tho
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This is entirely off topic but that Hugh Jackman robot boxing movie goes hard
Dust_Collector
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TRUE
Real Steel ******* rules
Real Steel ******* rules
Dust_Collector
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I keep forgetting this site censors certain swear words now lol
DivineAura44
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Yeah I'm sorry but that statement is just wrong.
Nullflowerblush
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Literally this.
Hell, Goku thought Time-Skip was faster than Instant Transmission, too, because Hit could use the technique without start up.
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Yes. Granolah with Gas.
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What, translated wrong, or?
Nullflowerblush
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Probably cuz of Android 17.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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I'm pretty sure there's actual evidence that there is tangible time between disappearing and re-appearing (like human characters reacting to something happening before Goku pops out of TELEPORTATION ZONE again)
Serlock_Holmes
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Even here you can hear the appearing and disappearing effect. Cell could somewhat react.
DivineAura44
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Im pretty sure 17 cleanly blocks some strikes from Jiren.
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Using his shield?
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Can confirm.
DivineAura44
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Yh, I have to check back tho
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I remember it well, brother
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Look at the downgrade starting hot (to match the New Year)
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Higher-Dimensional Existence issue (Staff Thread)
It's sad that I had to make this thread especially since it's well known I can't stand Higher Dimensional Existence or Tier 1 stuff but this nonsense needs to get solved asap. It's been brought up in recent discussions that that simply embodying a timeline/universe space-time continuum doesn't...
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Yes, but actually no.
You see, this never occurs, not as it’s seen (as in the ACTUAL Teleportation Zone). The main Z Anime’s use of IT (not the films) are fairly faithful to the Manga (which notably does not have a Teleportation Zone).
The Teleportation Zone only “exists” and was made up in the Z movies, and no one reacts to it. SSJ Vegeta can only react to the consequences of Goku and M.Cooler’s fight as they enter and exit reality—(such as when they make contact with the floor)—And in the first Broly film, where Goku only is seen to use IT to travel the universe to follow Broly’s Ki (but he only found destruction, which shouldn’t be possible based on how IT works—It takes you directly to Ki Signatures when traveling long distances, and when a Ki Signature moves it takes you to that. Goku also appears in lifeless rubble where Ki doesn’t exist, which again, should not be possible.)
That’s not to say it doesn’t apply to the Anime—They’re apart of the same continuity and the like, (obviously it’s the opposite, and the films do apply), but it does mean that the movies are actively embellishing the mechanics of the move and they don’t coincide with the Anime’s use outside of the fact they are forced to. (Similar to how the Garlic Saga and film MUST be canon to GT despite it being physically impossible for the first film to exist in the timeline—Same with Cooler’s Revenge. They don’t actually coincide based on any actual standard of observation, but they are FORCED to coincide due to continuity.)
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Higher-Dimensional Existence issue (Staff Thread)
It's sad that I had to make this thread especially since it's well known I can't stand Higher Dimensional Existence or Tier 1 stuff but this nonsense needs to get solved asap. It's been brought up in recent discussions that that simply embodying a timeline/universe space-time continuum doesn't...
Serlock_Holmes
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Eh I also disagree with a universe counting for HDE. But the thread came as a byproduct of something different.
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Fun Fact: It was verbatim stated once in the anime I believe that the Instant Transmission technique turns the user into light and allows them to travel at light speed (Goku even specifically mentions the speed of light in miles per second).
This statement is so unimaginably, inconceivably inconsistent, that it makes me wonder if the people who wrote this line were even thinking. I mean holy shit how little can you care about the series you are making.
This statement is so unimaginably, inconceivably inconsistent, that it makes me wonder if the people who wrote this line were even thinking. I mean holy shit how little can you care about the series you are making.
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Anyways this whole argument about IT is silly to me. Idk what started the debate but I swear to god if people are unironically trying to argue infinite speed for DB, I don't even know what to say to you guys
. There are situations where just saying "argument from incredulity xd" or "PiS" or anything else is not a valid counterpoint. If we were taking things that far, we outta just abandon any common sense, upgrade the whole verse including OG Dragon Ball to Low 1-C and immeasurable, give Tori-Bot a tier 0 page, and call it a day.
. There are situations where just saying "argument from incredulity xd" or "PiS" or anything else is not a valid counterpoint. If we were taking things that far, we outta just abandon any common sense, upgrade the whole verse including OG Dragon Ball to Low 1-C and immeasurable, give Tori-Bot a tier 0 page, and call it a day.Ruphas_Mafahl123
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I wonder. Why the hell are people who never commented here, commenting now on this thread? Lol......
Serlock_Holmes
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DB magic is gonna give high 1-A Goku believe it. Also no idea why people want high verses. Most of the time anything about universal-multiversal sucks ass.
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Infinite Speed doesn't exist in any story for any character in all of fiction.
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