Whats your dragonball hot takes, doesn't have to be scaling related.
I like jiren
Oh where to begin. I'm not holding back with this one. Time for a big list:
Gohan is an overrated character, and everything after the Cell Games was bad for him, yes including Ultimate. His character isn't remotely consistent. I like what Toriyama wanted for the character, but after the Cell Games where Gohan's arc concluded, his character undergoes several reverts and seems to be incapable of changing or growing further. Gohan's literal GIMMICK is "Potential big but no train when peace", it's happened 3 times now. First with the Buu Saga time-skip, and to be clear I actually like that one. Gohan getting sloppy about his training because he doesn't realize that big threats will still come is fitting, since he lacks the experience and wisdom of his senior warriors. I don't like that the issue is resolved by a random character using a magic ritual to give him a new form at all, it was extremely lazy and unearned, even if he had a cool aura fight against Buu where he immediately becomes overconfident and loses. By the way, this is the exact same mistake he made against Cell that lead to one of the most tragic moments in his life which he should've wanted to never repeat again, instead he repeats it again the moment he powers up and almost gets the universe destroyed (unless Whis is like "Yo Beerus there's some shit going on lol you might wanna go handle that"). But it doesn't end there, RoF reverts Gohan's arc again by making him slack off to the point that in a measly 3 and a half years he struggles to even go SSJ1, a form he MASTERED as an 11 year old. Then the same trope repeats AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN with Super Hero, where he just powers-up and becomes a top-tier mortal fighter again because he sees Piccolo get hurt. Lol. Actual trash character post-Cell Games.
Goku is a good dad forced into bad circumstances, though people need to acknowledge that Piccolo was also a father figure to Gohan. Gohan has a mom and 2 dads, that's all there is to it. Could also add Krillin as the cool uncle but tbh that's mostly just cause of the Namek Saga and Krillin being Goku's best friend. I think people who call Goku a bad dad don't know what an actual bad dad looks like, which is a good thing. He exclusively wants what's best for his children. Forgetting his grand-daughter's name is terrible but that's just DBS for you.
People who think that Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan need to be
[REDACTED]. Not really a "hot" take but I have to say it wherever I go.
SSJG and SSJB are good forms narratively, I love SSJG's aesthetic as a "new base form" in which the previous farms are overlapped, but the execution of them is poor at best.
Raditz is a perfectly fine character as-is. He served his role perfectly, introducing a whole new aspect to the series, demonstrating the potential threat of future antagonists by humiliating the former one, and adding more backstory to Goku's life without unnecessary flashbacks. I don't even mind the fact that Vegeta got a redemption arc instead of Goku's brother, because frankly Vegeta's dynamic as a royal Saiyan elite who, under original Saiyan culture, believes that training is a tool for the weak, is way more interesting to me than a character whose only relevant quality is being Goku's sibling. Literally the pinnacle of the original Saiyan, not just in power, but in mindset. Goku, a low-class "piece of trash", being the one who teaches Vegeta some much needed humiliation and opens his view to a new lifestyle, is perfect writing.
I hate a lot of factors about DBS but it's a tad bit underrated, or I should say, overhated. DBS is mediocre most of the time, but it has REALLY good spots, and people saying that GT was better are exaggerating because of memory. GT wasn't good, decent, or mediocre, it was bad with some decent moments here and there.
The Dragon Ball Super: Broly movie is still the best Dragon Ball has been in over 20 years, though DBZ: Battle of Gods is a good contender.
Movie Broly genuinely embarrasses anime Jiren,
IF Broly gets to or starts in Super Saiyan. Blue Gogeta no-low-diffs the ToP.
DBZ>DB>DBS~Daima>GT>SDBH.
Base Goku by the Android Saga already surpassed Namek Frieza. Idk if that's a hot take.
Tien is the most wasted main cast character in the series, Yamcha coming in second.
