You set the rules bro.
It's more like a sparring match than anything but one where they're allowed to go all out.
Except his shockwaves don't work if:
They're pretty similar in skill, but All Might has more experience due to being older ig. However, they both scale to keeping up with All For One, just in different scenarios, altough Star never really had the chance to fight him in CQC due to him using Shiggy's body, and therefore Decay
ok but if she's not using Super Strength, she's using Fist Bump To The Earth on top of Keranous which outranges and overwhelms All Might anyways. Star with her hax and jets could avoid Shiggy for an extended period of time despite his capability of 1 shotting her, and even got close enough to touch him herself twice (once to punch him in the face, the next to try and make him suffocate). Using just Fist Bump To The Earth means that she retains her Super Strength and can't be caught off guard, so either way All Might has no options
Star can say exactly what she said against Shiggy and All Might would be dead in the water. She can put All Might in the exact same situation as she did Shiggy, and even if she can't, she doesn't need to impose any rules on All Might to beat him anyways
Considering how Star fought All For One in Shiggy's body, who has the exact same stats as All Might, has All For One's skills and experience, AND a bajillion additional quirks on top of that, I'm pretty sure she won't be struggling in this situation. All Might and Star both fought All For One, so their skill should be comparable to each other despite All Might's older age. Not to mention, Star has fought many many villains in America as well; we can't underestimate her skill just because she's never displayed them on screen
His power doesn't eclipse Star and Stripe considering how her normal punches are still capable of sending Shiggy flying with a single blow, she can outrange his CQC with Fist Bump to the Earth, and she can EE the air out of the atmosphere so his shockwaves don't work
She can still very well just say “All Might will be unconscious for the next 3 days.”
She's never shown Sleep Hax before so we can't assume she can do this.
New Order is literally imposing any rule on the object she touches as long as she knows the name and her rule isn’t roundabout. Don’t see how her being able to put someone to sleep would be a mere assumption.
Because while it makes it sense, we can't use abilities that aren't on the profiles. I feel like everytime New Order comes up we have to remind people of this.
I mean I can see your line of reasoning, and I’d agree with it in most cases. But there really hasn’t been anything in the series proving she wouldn’t be capable of leaving someone unconscious with a rule…
I agree with you, but that's also the problem, what I agree with doesn't matter as long as it isn't on the profile.
I mean, there IS a tangible limit. It’s just very abstract because we only see it twice. Being how “tough” she can make herself in terms of superhuman physicals like strength and speed, (even after imposing a rule to make herself The Strongest, she was STILL beneath All Might), and how “tough” she can make herself in the sense of resisting damage, as seen when she tried to make herself Decay-Immune and was still being affected.
True
I’m pretty sure that didn’t work cuz ShigAFO had already taken New Order by then
It goes against site rules.
Nah, SnS explicitly says it was her limit. It’s also why she was decayed slowly, rather than the immediate erasure of the hospital we saw.
In what way? We’ve literally seen Star say, “If Tomura Shigaraki moves at all, his heart will stop.”
Oh… then I guess I stand corrected on that
We need direct feats or statements for powers to be accepted on this site, just because she can do something that revolves around a different part of someone's body doesn't mean she can affect the brain, no matter how much I agree with you here. Those are the rules and I didn't write them.
That isn't a different power, plus half the reasoning was her using guns, which she can.
ik this is a late reply, but it was heavily implied that her whole "If Shiggy moves he'll die" thing would have worked if Shiggy identified with an actual identity instead of having an identity crisis, meaning All Might, who's as strong as Shiggy, wouldn't be able to resist New Order's abilities
She can still make All Might die just like how she nearly made Shiggy die
Well, you’re absolutely right in the sense that it was implied it’d work, but it has no bearing on All Might. Because the limit isn’t physical—It’s “Life Power.” While there isn’t a cap on incapacitation, specifically, there is seemingly in the method of doing so. As ShigAFO notes. He even goes so fast as to say it might be possible, but less effective. Point being, Star has a limit in her ability to affect living things—New Order works specifically flawlessly on the non living, due to “her one sided understanding enforcing the rule.” As such, given it’s about an abstract thing and has only been applied abstractly, we can’t say for sure or against New Order. All we know is some limitation exists for her, and that should be accounted for. (More specifically, deliberating what would and wouldn’t breach into what would be in that limitation.)
