Star and Stripe (MHA) vs The Immortal (Invincible TV)

[TheRustyOne]

Never said she tried two rules.

Yeah and the Flash can rip out everyone's heart in SSKTJL. He doesn't. Because plot.

We know she can put a numerical value on it as see with the air giant.

It's not about space, it's about running out of air. Something that happens to even Viltrumites. There is No reason to think that Immortal doesn't need Oxygen when viltrumites are killed via chokeholds.

1. Even if that's true, your completely wrong though, she would try that in universe and it doesn't work. That would just means it's out of character and she'll never try it at all.

2. She cannot kill Tomura without knowing his name because he's too tough and regenerates, that's why she tried the missiles. It's not plot, you just can't accept the reality that the series is telling you because you live in your own head canon. She wanted him dead as soon as possible and she used the missiles because it was the most certain method. This directly tells us she has NO method of killing him. Her Quirk isn't as powerful as you think it is.

3. That's her rule shaping the air. We don't accept such a thing, want to complain about it? Make a thread to change our rules. She cannot amp her speed in such a manner as she was never shown to do such a thing. She can only increase her speed by an unknown amount.

4. Immortal isn't a Viltrumite, his abilities can be whatever the writer wants it to be. Just because Viltrumites need to breath doesn't mean Immortal needs too. Also, doesn't mean he can't hold his breath for a like a week either in that case.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Let me make something clear to you.

Star and Stripe's Quirk cannot do everything. In versus battles Star can only do what she's been shown to do in universe and within reason.

She can erase air from existence, but she cannot erase people from existence. This is what we accept, it's even written on her profile.

She can make the air into her shape but 1000 times bigger. But that doesn't mean she can make herself 1000x bigger or increase her speed by that much either.

Star's Quirk is extremely more limited than what most people think. I have a personal head canon on why that is, but it's irrelevant in a versus thread.

Since she can erase air, she can likely erase other gases similar to air. Since she can increase the air's size to 1000x, she can likely make it smaller like 500x.

Since her Quirk requires too much speculation, we aren't going to be granting her abilities. As such, she can't make herself intangible either. She would've done so to avoid Tomura touching her and stealing her Quirk. You can't claim PIS when we know her Quirk isn't all mighty and all powerful.

If she doesn't do it, that means she most likely cannot do it. This is fiction and her power works however Horikoshi wants it to work. And he made it very clear she isn't all powerful.

 

[57Dev]

1. Even if that's true, your completely wrong though, she would try that in universe and it doesn't work. That would just means it's out of character and she'll never try it at all.

All right point taken.

2. She cannot kill Tomura without knowing his name because he's too tough and regenerates, that's why she tried the missiles. It's not plot, you just can't accept the reality that the series is telling you because you live in your own head canon. She wanted him dead as soon as possible and she used the missiles because it was the most certain method. This directly tells us she has NO method of killing him. Her Quirk isn't as powerful as you think it is.

Yeah that's why I said SS can coax Immortal into revealing his name. Immortal is very very angry and doesn't think through things. It's called being logical. Again for example SSKTJL. Flash can just throw a pencil at relativistic speed and kill the squad right there, Superman can throw the entire city block with the squad in space but he doesn't because Plot induced Stupidity. It's not headcanon, it's logic.

"After touching a target she can call out the targets name and assign a new rule to it" So yes it is as versatile as I think it is.

3. That's her rule shaping the air. We don't accept such a thing, want to complain about it? Make a thread to change our rules. She cannot amp her speed in such a manner as she was never shown to do such a thing. She can only increase her speed by an unknown amount.

Don't have enough time to waste on that. Sure, still higher than Immortal then since speed is equal.

4. Immortal isn't a Viltrumite, his abilities can be whatever the writer wants it to be. Just because Viltrumites need to breath doesn't mean Immortal needs too. Also, doesn't mean he can't hold his breath for a like a week either in that case.

The comic never said he doesn't have to breath. The only who doesn't need to breath is Allen, aside from that you are assuming Immortal doesn't need to breath despite there being no evidence of so. Him holding his breath for a week is also nothing but an empty assumption as he has never been in a vacuum for more than 5 minutes.