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Out of curiosity, where is that graph from?
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All Might downgrade
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Is what the graph measuring closer to DBZ style power levels, or energy output from All Might's punches?
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Ah, okay.
So if we used that graph as the basis, what would you say his Prime self should be rated as?
So if we used that graph as the basis, what would you say his Prime self should be rated as?
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I feel assuming it's linear would make more sense for the graph.
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@Therefir But...what does that even?
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>When your comment is sent 30 minutes late
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I don't know how i feel about using the graph as a multiplier.
One of the important factors to determine if a Multipliers is legit or not is if it tells you what specific quantity is being multiplied. I haven't seen the movie yet but "quirk level" doesn't seem specific enough for a multiplier
One of the important factors to determine if a Multipliers is legit or not is if it tells you what specific quantity is being multiplied. I haven't seen the movie yet but "quirk level" doesn't seem specific enough for a multiplier
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Then for his Prime should we go with At least ______ level, likely higher?
Also, if we use that graph both Nomu and All For One wouldn't scale to the storm calc.
Also, if we use that graph both Nomu and All For One wouldn't scale to the storm calc.
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They wouldn't. Dunno how direct it is, but assuming it's linear Prime All-Might would be 1.875 to 2~x his Pre-Deku self and at least 3.89× his post Deku self.
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I think "unknown" would be better since even if the "300 vs 5" statement isn't enough for an exact multiplier, it still shows that All Might's prime self is ludicrously above his current self.
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Unknown or "X, likely higher" works better than a straight 60x multipier imo.
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@Andytrenom The graph is certainly consistent with All Might's loss of power over the years and after giving his Quirk to Izuku, but I don't feel like arguing about such a small multiplier. I'm fine with "Unknown" or "At least X level, likely higher".
I'll try to calculate All Might's feat in the movie later.
I'll try to calculate All Might's feat in the movie later.
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I feel the At least would work better.
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@Andy
At that, the 300 vs 5 is objectively wrong either way. He said OVER 300 + about half of his punches were over 100%
At that, the 300 vs 5 is objectively wrong either way. He said OVER 300 + about half of his punches were over 100%
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Bump-e-do
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Option currently are:
1) Leave it unchanged.
2) Use the graph from the movie as an estimate of Prime All Might's power (about double the storm feat, Nomu and All For One wouldn't scale)
3) Change his prime to "At least this powerful [insert Storm calc], likely higher"
Any other suggestions? Right now I'm undecided between 2 and 3.
1) Leave it unchanged.
2) Use the graph from the movie as an estimate of Prime All Might's power (about double the storm feat, Nomu and All For One wouldn't scale)
3) Change his prime to "At least this powerful [insert Storm calc], likely higher"
Any other suggestions? Right now I'm undecided between 2 and 3.
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Two seems alright, but if most don't agree three would be the way to go.
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Option 3 makes most sense here.
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Don't think two is correct since It doesn't seem to fit in with our guidelines for a legitimate multiplier
3 makes the most sense but I think putting it at "unknown" is also an option.
3 makes the most sense but I think putting it at "unknown" is also an option.
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I feel putting "Unknown, at least 7-B" would be the best here.
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Yeah, Unknow, at least 7-B wouldn't be bad.
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Well I would like to actually be able to use prime All MIght in matches, so i'm willing to agree on Unknow, at least 7-B
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I agree with unknown At least 7B
Granted, I would like to see what results it gives us
Granted, I would like to see what results it gives us
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Pretty sure that even with the multiplier he would be in 7-B+
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Unknown, At least 7-B
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Okay, looks like the majority of people agree on the new rating.
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I agree with Unknown, At least 7-B as well.
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Yeah I'm good with that. His speed would also need to be downgraded.
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I don't think All Might's speed is impacted by disregarding the 60x multiplier, but I do have issues with All Might's current speed rating.
I'm not sure where the info is coming from that All Might's speed is far superior to 100% Izuku (leading to him bein given a Likely higher) qualifier.
I'm not sure where the info is coming from that All Might's speed is far superior to 100% Izuku (leading to him bein given a Likely higher) qualifier.
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Izuku breaks his legs with one 100% step, AM doesn't and keeps going. Not to mention when AM casually blitzed the fodder villains/saved the 1-A students, none of them could react/notice but they all reacted to/noticed Deku using his 100%.
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> Izuku breaks his legs with one 100% step, AM doesn't and keeps going.
That doesn't have anything to do with his speed.
> Not to mention when AM casually blitzed the fodder villains/saved the 1-A students, none of them could react/notice but they all reacted to/noticed Deku using his 100%.
Which was calced to be Supersonic+.
And none of the students were present when Izuku was fighting Chisaki with 100%.
That doesn't have anything to do with his speed.
> Not to mention when AM casually blitzed the fodder villains/saved the 1-A students, none of them could react/notice but they all reacted to/noticed Deku using his 100%.
Which was calced to be Supersonic+.
And none of the students were present when Izuku was fighting Chisaki with 100%.
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All Might is casually so much stronger than Izuku 100% that it's not even funny. I don't see any reason to assume he's not far faster as well.
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On the students reacting, I was referring to the sports festival when he jumped 100% at Todoroki and during the entrance exam against the 0 pointer.
Edit: Does it actually say it somewhere that 100% Deku = 100% AM?
Edit: Does it actually say it somewhere that 100% Deku = 100% AM?
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That would be covered by just 'At least Hypersonic+' if that's all there was to it.
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No, At least Hypersonic+, likely higher is fine. No reason to remove higher.
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Why exactly? When All Might's best speed calc is much lower than that, and we have nothing else in the series proving he is far higher, then I don't see why the 'likely higher' qualifier is necessary.TheRustyOne said:
