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Round 1: In Character
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Round 2: Bloodlusted
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Alien X vs Arceus
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Round 1: I'm just telling Arceus uses Alien X as a punch bag since he's gonna be idle.
Round 2: Alien X takes it.
Round 2: Alien X takes it.
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Is this full power Arceus? If so...
R1: Arceus enacts Judgment.
R2: Arceus enacts Judgment.
R1: Arceus enacts Judgment.
R2: Arceus enacts Judgment.
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Doesn't seem to be enough strong to beat Alien X (the guy stop the Anihilaarg to create a new universe with his bare hands).
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That's not really impressive when put next to full power Arceus. Arceus created at the very least six universes, created several beings with Universe level+ power, and is capable of fighting them on even footing while extremely weakened, and completely destroying them at full strength.
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1.Arceus
2.Alien X He's casually universal and we have no time frames for how long it took Arceus to create the universes.
2.Alien X He's casually universal and we have no time frames for how long it took Arceus to create the universes.
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Actually, we have seen Palkia and Dialga begin to create a universe incredibly quickly, and we know that Complete Arceus >>> Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina combined. It is safe to say Arceus could likely create a universe much faster than Palkia or Dialga could, as they are only a fraction of his power.
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Hmm good point there as well but alien X still has the speed category Arceus was only negating their attacks with his planes because he could keep up right? I've seen the fight on YouTube a couple of times.
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Yes, but that was incomplete Arceus. Being slower than your opponent isn't a massive factor if they can't hurt you, and I'm not sure Alien X can hurt complete Arceus. He can definitely blitz incomplete Arceus if he's bloodlusted, but complete Arceus is Multi-Universe level.
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True and I don't know if alien X can move in stopped time either so he likely loses now that I look at it but probably because he needs better feats tbh
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If we use WoG, Alien X is a Multiverse buster.
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Well you see those dots? Are universes.
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Proof, please?
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Watch this. From minute 20 and second 10.
Also watch this. From minute 3 and second 26. (Paradox getting into Alien X prooved that Serena and Bellicus are somewhere near the forge of creation, thus prooving all the points are universes, as stated by the same Paradox in the same episode).
Also watch this. From minute 3 and second 26. (Paradox getting into Alien X prooved that Serena and Bellicus are somewhere near the forge of creation, thus prooving all the points are universes, as stated by the same Paradox in the same episode).
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The points in the first clip became galaxies, not universes. Hence why they were part of Ben's recreation of the universe.
The second clip is unrelated. Leaving the universe does not prove that the things in the first clip were universes. Especially when Ben specifically stated that he recreated the universe in the first clip.
The second clip is unrelated. Leaving the universe does not prove that the things in the first clip were universes. Especially when Ben specifically stated that he recreated the universe in the first clip.
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He's just making a Universe, not other Universes. Those are little dots, are galaxies.
Though back to the point, Alien X IS a multiversal reality warper. Celestialsapiens live in the forge of creation, but can affect other Universes if need be.
Though back to the point, Alien X IS a multiversal reality warper. Celestialsapiens live in the forge of creation, but can affect other Universes if need be.
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i say arceus.
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Probably Arceus due to being Multi-Universal.
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also the new hoopa movie will give arceus new feats as well.
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Alien X is a Multiversal reaity warper though. Celestialsapiens live in a different universe, and can affect other universes.
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yet on this site alien x is only low 2-C while arceus is normal 2-C
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I wonder why he isn't listed as Multiversal. Also why don't we use WoG? Its more realiable than feats, since it's said by creators.
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just because a creator says it doesn't mean they accept it. toriyama stated beerus destroyed 1/s of the universe but that isn't accepted. this is no different. as of now i'd say arceus wins due to being able to destroy at least 5 universes/dimensions. hence multi-universal.
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I don't think Toriyama has ever said Beerus destroyed a Universe. Also theres no such thing as Multi-Universal, its just somemade up term used here. It's the same as Multiverse. A Multiverse is a infinite number or universe or only a few. It completly varies, but they are the same thing.
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well in that case then arceus is multiversal. but we use the terms on this site to decide a victor. also i meant 1/5 of the universe for the beerus thing.
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1/5'th a Universe isn't that hard to do. I'm pretty sure Beerus could probably do it.
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no i'm just giving an example of how WoG isn't always accepted.
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Well, I think that Beerus feat is actually an something Beerus is capable of, so that WoG would be true. Like all of them
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me too but like i said they aren't always accepted. no matter how WE feel about it. keep it in mind.
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Why though? I'm pretty sure the creators know what they're talking about. Since ya know? They made the character. Unless its obviously a stupid statement.
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not my place to argue why. i'm just a user of the site. just gotta suck it up and accept it.
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Gong to have to go with Arceus here.
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@XFluffDawg: The community tries only to use what is shown to keep the accuracy high and make the site reliable.
@Azathoth: I noticed you answered before I edited the post. My bad. The logic of the second link is, as follows: Paradox is banned from The Forge of Creation and he can't be near than 500 light years, he entered into Alien X, when he did he broke that law, so is implied he was at somewhere into there, finally when Kevin, Ben and Gwen traveled to the "deep space" near the Forge of Creation they saw what they thought were clouds or dots and Paradox said that were universes.
@Azathoth: I noticed you answered before I edited the post. My bad. The logic of the second link is, as follows: Paradox is banned from The Forge of Creation and he can't be near than 500 light years, he entered into Alien X, when he did he broke that law, so is implied he was at somewhere into there, finally when Kevin, Ben and Gwen traveled to the "deep space" near the Forge of Creation they saw what they thought were clouds or dots and Paradox said that were universes.
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Eh no. I've written Alien X's respect thread on another site, and I can confirm those white dots that he made were either the stars (like the ones on his body) or the later galaxies which were shown.
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Arceus wins Scenario 1
Alien X wins Scenrio 2
Alien X wins Scenrio 2
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Isn't Alien X only Universal? If that's the case, Arceus probs wins easy.
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actually arceus wins both rounds. arceus last i checked had immeasurable speed and time manipulationSuperKamiNappa said:
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Apparently, the guy wasn't specific on weather this was complete Arceus or not. I think i'm going to close this due to not knowing which version is used.
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