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Yes because there are no baseline above 2-A.But bigger than Infinite 4-D as 5D .
so there is some clarification needed here.
We are not closing the CRT before the staff come.Close the crt. No, you can open a more comprehensive one instead of a crt that says it has exceeded our plane of existence, which gives it 4 dimensional, and claims that its time does not flow in our plane of existence.
"Alien X's body has a pocket Universe which has its own Time and Causality disconnected from rest of Time"Yes he does, his 5D HDE comes from the fact that his pocket dimension scales beyond Ben 10 cosmology which is low 1-C
Accidentally wiping something out is NOT passive. Like wtf??Did you like even read the statement ? It literally says ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain so yeah his mere existence is enough to wipe out a mountain.....in other words it's passive
He was 4D until the statement that he is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence came.Also in all honestly. i thought Alien X is 3D with some 5D hax and such?
Upon checking it is possible for someone to contain a 4D plane of existence (3D+Time) within oneself without being 5DHe was 4D then they wanked him to 5D
Like I said, your comments don't to matter much if DT says so.agree to disagree anyway again.
But I already stated I disagree with DT reasoning, as long as standard doesn't contradict and supports what state I can move with it, if something is bigger than Infinite 3D that can't be contained in 3D structure and equates to 4D structure.
Not necessary actualy, you must make the infinite 3D as a subset or portion of it, that make that structure is much bigger in every part than the infinite 3Dbeing bigger than Infinite 3D is 4D
Accidentally wiping out something is not passive but accidentally wiping out something due to your mere existence is passive.Accidentally wiping something out is NOT passive. Like wtf??
Our plane of existence is 3D assorted into a film strip over timeHe was 4D until the statement that he is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence came.
Thats not what it says. It just says accidentally wipes out a mountain not passivelyAccidentally wiping out something is not passive but accidentally wiping out something due to your mere existence is passive.
Simple difference
3D space with time is 4Din the end the plane of existence is still a 3D space with time and not 4D as a 4D space so no.
I think both his HDE should be nuked. His first one is just pocket dimension manipulation and dimensional storage while the other feat can maybe mean 4D but DT did say transcending doesnt give HDE it seems like Alien X doesnt have HDE at allOur plane of existence is 3D assorted into a film strip over time
in the end the plane of existence is still a 3D space with time and not 4D as a 4D space so no. transcending the plane of existence should be 4D only
if our plane of existence is 4D then we'll have hypercubes around us which isn't the case
It says that ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain.Thats not what it says. It just says accidentally wipes out a mountain not passively
Thats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuffIt says that ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain.
The moment Alien x b to exist = no mountain
How is that so hard to understand ?
Are you doing it on purpose ? The statement is so ******* obvious it doesn't really takes a genius to realise thatThats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuff
No it is not obvious at all? If I say I accidently destroyed a glass would you think I did it on an accident or my mere presence destroyed it?Are you doing it on purpose ? The statement is so ******* obvious it doesn't really takes a genius to realise that
Thats not what I said tf? I am saying it just shows the card is not really a good source since it makes the character seem weakerSo are you suggesting a downgrade to tier 7? With all this hyperfixation on the mountain stuff it sure as hell seems so.
DT says what he says. I didn't know there was such a thing until I heard it from DT, but that's the thing.Are you doing it on purpose ? The statement is so ******* obvious it doesn't really takes a genius to realise that
Sorry but the Statement is "Alien X is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence". That's strawman to say it's linked to mountain Destroying or whatever, neither makes sense and is a assertion.Thats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuff
Thats not what I said. What I am saying is the card is not good enough source material as it makes Alien X seem like a Tier 6 character with him doing a 7-A feat. Plus transcending is not enough for HDE anywaySorry but the Statement is "Alien X is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence". That's strawman to say it's linked to mountain Destroying or whatever, neither makes sense and is a assertion.
? Not really. It's just flavor text to make something sound cool.Thats not what I said tf? I am saying it just shows the card is not really a good source since it makes the character seem weaker
The card was made during Alien Force before the show properly explored Celestialsapiens and their powerI am saying it just shows the card is not really a good source since it makes the character seem weaker
Which shows that its very unreliableThe card was made during Alien Force before the show properly explored Celestialsapiens and their power
"This you see this Low 1-C character? Yeah yeah guess what! He can even destroy a mountain! Yes a mountain!"? Not really. It's just flavor text to make something sound cool.
OMG it says Ben by JUST TURNING into Alien x is enough to wipe out a mountain. Literally Alien x appearance alone is enough to destroy a ******* mountain, that's what the statement says.....No it is not obvious at all? If I say I accidently destroyed a glass would you think I did it on an accident or my mere presence destroyed it?
Go to my thread and read it, he says it does not qualify simple as that, I am still arguing for it though.And mathematically higher D is just being size equals to R⁴ and being bigger than Infinite 3D cannot exist in just 3D space that's an assertion to say it is some kind of non dimensional space or whatever when higher Dimensions already exist in the verse, so occam's razor.
Dude chill out. You're literally oozing salt rn with all of these aggressive posts."This you see this Low 1-C character? Yeah yeah guess what! He can even destroy a mountain! Yes a mountain!"
I will ask something out of curiosity. How supported is the card game with the main series (it doesn't matter if it's Canon).The card was made during Alien Force before the show properly explored Celestialsapiens and their power
No way wtf? It only says he accidentally wiped out a mountain nothing about presence or passive? Alien X if he had 7-A Passive AP which doesnt exist he would then destroy anything around him??OMG it says Ben by JUST TURNING into Alien x is enough to wipe out a mountain. Literally Alien x appearance alone is enough to destroy a ******* mountain, that's what the statement says.....
I am oozing salt after I saw you guys trying to give Alien X Idk Passive 7-A AP? Because he accidentally wiped out a mountainDude chill out. You're literally oozing salt rn with all of these aggressive posts.
Its not an antifeat for the 5th time. It just shows the card has no understanding in any dimension stuff and therefore not reliable.Don't see how some flavor text to add a tone is some sort of antifeat?
So powerful he can accidentally destroy a mountain = cool sounding to children
It's not a card game, but a similiar one was used for Big Chill's absolute zero which is supported in-show IIRC.I will ask something out of curiosity. How supported is the card game with the main series (it doesn't matter if it's Canon).
Don't see how one can come to that conclusion? Seems like a strange comparison.Its not an antifeat for the 5th time. It just shows the card has no understanding in any dimension stuff and therefore not reliable.
So Ben 10 Supporters added the HDE with a CRT for AP?Also the quote wasn't even meant for HDE anyway, since the statement says that "Alien x is so powerful that they transcended our plane of existence"
Don't see how one can come to that conclusion? Seems like a strange comparison.
The card was made during Alien Force before the show properly explored Celestialsapiens and their power
HDE was always there. It was literally added as supporting evidence. You are literally focusing on literal supporting evidence.So Ben 10 Supporters added the HDE with a CRT for AP?