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Alien X HDE Deletion

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Close the crt. No, you can open a more comprehensive one instead of a crt that says it has exceeded our plane of existence, which gives it 4 dimensional, and claims that its time does not flow in our plane of existence.
 
Close the crt. No, you can open a more comprehensive one instead of a crt that says it has exceeded our plane of existence, which gives it 4 dimensional, and claims that its time does not flow in our plane of existence.
We are not closing the CRT before the staff come.
Yes he does, his 5D HDE comes from the fact that his pocket dimension scales beyond Ben 10 cosmology which is low 1-C
"Alien X's body has a pocket Universe which has its own Time and Causality disconnected from rest of Time"

Isnt this just 4D? Actually this might not even be HDE bro- Its just pocket dimension
Did you like even read the statement ? It literally says ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain so yeah his mere existence is enough to wipe out a mountain.....in other words it's passive
Accidentally wiping something out is NOT passive. Like wtf??
 
He was 4D then they wanked him to 5D
Upon checking it is possible for someone to contain a 4D plane of existence (3D+Time) within oneself without being 5D
What proof do we have that his pocket dimension scales beyond the ben 10 cosmology that is low 1-C?
because them having pocket dimension inside their body yet also existing within the world inside the world of Ben 10 is a heavy contradiction

I wouldn't say HDe should be removed but HDE being 5D is suspicious
 
Actually yeah. I am changing this thread to full on removal. The pocket dimension seems pretty normal pocket dimension stuff
 
🗿agree to disagree anyway again.


But I already stated I disagree with DT reasoning, as long as standard doesn't contradict and supports what state I can move with it, if something is bigger than Infinite 3D that can't be contained in 3D structure and equates to 4D structure.
Like I said, your comments don't to matter much if DT says so.
 
He was 4D until the statement that he is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence came.
Our plane of existence is 3D assorted into a film strip over time
in the end the plane of existence is still a 3D space with time and not 4D as a 4D space so no. transcending the plane of existence should be 4D only
if our plane of existence is 4D then we'll have hypercubes around us which isn't the case
 
Accidentally wiping out something is not passive but accidentally wiping out something due to your mere existence is passive.

Simple difference
Thats not what it says. It just says accidentally wipes out a mountain not passively

I made the CRT so it removes the HDE completely
 
Our plane of existence is 3D assorted into a film strip over time
in the end the plane of existence is still a 3D space with time and not 4D as a 4D space so no. transcending the plane of existence should be 4D only
if our plane of existence is 4D then we'll have hypercubes around us which isn't the case
I think both his HDE should be nuked. His first one is just pocket dimension manipulation and dimensional storage while the other feat can maybe mean 4D but DT did say transcending doesnt give HDE it seems like Alien X doesnt have HDE at all
 
Thats not what it says. It just says accidentally wipes out a mountain not passively
It says that ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain.

The moment Alien x b to exist = no mountain
How is that so hard to understand ?

Doesn't matter whatever it's passive or not doesn't change anything I said like really
 
It says that ben by just turning into Alien x can accidentally wipe out a mountain.

The moment Alien x b to exist = no mountain
How is that so hard to understand ?
Thats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuff
 
Okay I will just wait for DT or whoever else then we will see if Alien X has 5D HDE, 4D HDE or None at all
 
Thats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuff
Are you doing it on purpose ? The statement is so ******* obvious it doesn't really takes a genius to realise that
 
Are you doing it on purpose ? The statement is so ******* obvious it doesn't really takes a genius to realise that
No it is not obvious at all? If I say I accidently destroyed a glass would you think I did it on an accident or my mere presence destroyed it?
So are you suggesting a downgrade to tier 7? With all this hyperfixation on the mountain stuff it sure as hell seems so.
Thats not what I said tf? I am saying it just shows the card is not really a good source since it makes the character seem weaker
 
Thats not- No. Thats not what they meant. They obv mean Alien X was so strong he wiped out a mountain. We dont give character passive AP because they accidently destroy stuff
Sorry but the Statement is "Alien X is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence". That's strawman to say it's linked to mountain Destroying or whatever, neither makes sense and is a assertion.
 
I am just shocked. Like these guys are arguing for passive 7-A AP for Alien X because of "he accidentally destroys a mountain" quote.
Sorry but the Statement is "Alien X is so strong that he transcend our very plane of Existence". That's strawman to say it's linked to mountain Destroying or whatever, neither makes sense and is a assertion.
Thats not what I said. What I am saying is the card is not good enough source material as it makes Alien X seem like a Tier 6 character with him doing a 7-A feat. Plus transcending is not enough for HDE anyway
 
No it is not obvious at all? If I say I accidently destroyed a glass would you think I did it on an accident or my mere presence destroyed it?
OMG it says Ben by JUST TURNING into Alien x is enough to wipe out a mountain. Literally Alien x appearance alone is enough to destroy a ******* mountain, that's what the statement says.....
 
And mathematically higher D is just being size equals to R⁴ and being bigger than Infinite 3D cannot exist in just 3D space that's an assertion to say it is some kind of non dimensional space or whatever when higher Dimensions already exist in the verse, so occam's razor.
Go to my thread and read it, he says it does not qualify simple as that, I am still arguing for it though.
He even said being infinitely larger than an infinite 3D construct does not mean HDE in the mathematical sense
 
"This you see this Low 1-C character? Yeah yeah guess what! He can even destroy a mountain! Yes a mountain!"
Dude chill out. You're literally oozing salt rn with all of these aggressive posts.

Don't see how some flavor text to add a tone is some sort of antifeat?

So powerful he can accidentally destroy a mountain = cool sounding to children
 
OMG it says Ben by JUST TURNING into Alien x is enough to wipe out a mountain. Literally Alien x appearance alone is enough to destroy a ******* mountain, that's what the statement says.....
No way wtf? It only says he accidentally wiped out a mountain nothing about presence or passive? Alien X if he had 7-A Passive AP which doesnt exist he would then destroy anything around him??
Dude chill out. You're literally oozing salt rn with all of these aggressive posts.
I am oozing salt after I saw you guys trying to give Alien X Idk Passive 7-A AP? Because he accidentally wiped out a mountain
Don't see how some flavor text to add a tone is some sort of antifeat?

So powerful he can accidentally destroy a mountain = cool sounding to children
Its not an antifeat for the 5th time. It just shows the card has no understanding in any dimension stuff and therefore not reliable.
 
Also the quote wasn't even meant for HDE anyway, since the statement says that "Alien x is so powerful that he transcended our plane of existence"

It's literally reffering to his AP here so it should be used as a justification for low 1-C AP instead
 
Also the quote wasn't even meant for HDE anyway, since the statement says that "Alien x is so powerful that they transcended our plane of existence"
So Ben 10 Supporters added the HDE with a CRT for AP?
Don't see how one can come to that conclusion? Seems like a strange comparison.
The card was made during Alien Force before the show properly explored Celestialsapiens and their power
 
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