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Alduin Vs Xeno Goku

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“Goku never took an hit from either conceptual manip or reality warping”

The thu’um can’t directly hit people with either of those. It just creates the thu’um, like how reality warping creates magic in the elder scrolls. You don’t hit people with reality warping with elder scrolls magic, it just summons the magic. The information, causality, conceptual combo of powers on his page doesn’t technically do anything.
 
Keeweed said:
“Goku never took an hit from either conceptual manip or reality warping”

The thu’um can’t directly hit people with either of those. It just creates the thu’um, like how reality warping creates magic in the elder scrolls. You don’t hit people with reality warping with elder scrolls magic, it just summons the magic. The information, causality, conceptual combo of powers on his page doesn’t technically do anything.
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Thum is a combination of concept hax, info hax and so on, so unless goku has resisted that type of stuff he would get nuked
 
RamadhanDayYet said:
Keweed, you seems like don't understand how hax works don't ya?
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What are referring to, if you are referring to Alduin’s hax combo that summons the thu’um. That can’t be used on opponents, it just creates the shouts, it doesn’t directly effect the opponent.

If you are referring to the resistance. I remember people say that 4D hax doesn’t have 2-A or low 2-C layers it’s just 4-D and has scaling chains. I just want to know Goku’s scaling chain because Alduin’s isn’t that large.
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Thum is a combination of concept hax, info hax and so on, so unless goku has resisted that type of stuff he would get nuked
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Except none of that stuff can actually hit the opponent because it’s not the outcome of the hack it’s the cause. He warps the world to cause the effect, but the warpage of the world isn’t in and of itself the effect. He shoots fire at you when he shouts fire, he does shoot conceptual manipulation at you.
 
Keeweed said:
What are referring to, if you are referring to Alduin’s hax combo that summons the thu’um. That can’t be used on opponents, it just creates the shouts, it doesn’t directly effect the opponent.

If you are referring to the resistance. I remember people say that 4D hax doesn’t have 2-A or low 2-C layers it’s just 4-D and has scaling chains. I just want to know Goku’s scaling chain because Alduin’s isn’t that large.
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Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Goku>SSJG Trunks >= Dark King Mechikabura >>>>>> SSJ4 Gogeta >>>>>>> Old Mechikabura >>>>>>> Dark Broly = Final Form Mira = SSJ4 Xeno Goku > SSJ3 Xeno Goku >>>>>>> Gravy >>>>>>> Base Xeno Goku > Chamel > Demigra (Transcended Demon God) > Demon God Demigra > Base Demigra (DBH) >>>>>> Xenoverse Demigra (TokiToki absorbed) = Baseline 2-A
 
That’s his ap, I was asking about his hack. Them being 2-A wouldn’t matter since I’m 90% sure we just use 4-D hack from low 2-C through 2-A and go off stomping chains.

If his hack stomping chain is the same, then he definitely gets past most of Alduin’s resistances.
 
Keeweed said:
If you are referring to the resistance. I remember people say that 4D hax doesn’t have 2-A or low 2-C layers it’s just 4-D and has scaling chains. I just want to know Goku’s scaling chain because Alduin’s isn’t that large.
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The whole "works on 2A" is not really anything since from tier low 2-C to 2-A is just 4D, there is nothing impressive bout it working on 2B, 2A etc.
 
That’s what I thought, I just wanted clarification (for 2-A vs just 4-D hax).

I was going off that as my base assumption.
 
Well 4-D hack can still have stomp chains.

Also does Goku’s resistances have a chain or are they baseline?

If Goku’s resistances have a chain then he just resist everything and eventually seals.
 
Keeweed said:
What are referring to, if you are referring to Alduin’s hax combo that summons the thu’um. That can’t be used on opponents, it just creates the shouts, it doesn’t directly effect the opponent.
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What are u saying right now is goes againt the profile that already discussed in CRT
Keeweed said:
If you are referring to the resistance. I remember people say that 4D hax doesn’t have 2-A or low 2-C layers it’s just 4-D and has scaling chains. I just want to know Goku’s scaling chain because Alduin’s isn’t that large.
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Alduin is that large

4D mind hax or anything like that won't make alduin flinch because of chain scalling from another dragon
 
Keeweed said:
That’s his ap, I was asking about his hack. Them being 2-A wouldn’t matter since I’m 90% sure we just use 4-D hack from low 2-C through 2-A and go off stomping chains.

If his hack stomping chain is the same, then he definitely gets past most of Alduin’s resistances.
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You really don't know about hax works lmao

Even if it's Infinitely above baseline 2A durability
It's still 4D

You can hax stomped it with 4D conceptual manipulation or anything comparable to it

Which is why anos win against most of tier 2 here (didn't mean to be out of topic but..)
 
I feel like there is miscommunication with the 4-D hax part. So let me just say if Goku’s resistances are baseline then Alduin wins. I just thought Goku would have higher resistances since he fights people that can bypass resistances, but I guess that doesn’t apply to Goku.

So yeah Alduin wins as he plows through Goku’s resistances.

Though it’s not a stomp because Goku could still seal.
 
@Ramad
You just contradicted yourself. You say baseline and higher don’t matter but then go on to say Alduin wins because he has better hack. So baseline and higher would matter because Alduin is winning because his hack is higher.
 
Teezar said:
No bro,what kind of logic is this.
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SBA:

“Assumptions​

Character version: The strongest canon version of a character is used, that we have listed.”

We use the strongest versions of the characters, which would be keysword Goku.

Ignoring how dumb a non keysword Goku vs Alduin would be since Goku just punches without it.

I mean, if we should ask the op, then I would.
 
Keeweed said:
I don’t think the stamina drain would work. Alduin is literally a concept, so his stamina is pretty obviously limitless.
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It needs to be proven that he has limitless stamina, but It doesn't matter since DD works on people with infinite stamina
 
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