Alduin Vs Xeno Goku

[TheLastStylebender]

Alduin
Vs
Son Goku (Xeno)

R1:speed unequalized
R2:speed equalized

R1
Alduin:

Son Goku :


R2
Alduin:

Son Goku :

 

[Braking]

UHH WHAT?

also why 2 rounds?

alduin wins round 1 with no diff

i think goku will take the 2 one

 

[sanicspood]

what is this? aldrin obv takes the first round and the second round i think he just hax stomps

 

[Braking]

what is this? aldrin obv takes the first round and the second round i think he just hax stomps

i dont understand a hax stomp. just because of so many moves does not mean he instantly stomps. also are any of those passive?

 

[sanicspood]

hm maybe not but can xeno goku affect type 2 abstracts?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Goku is absolutely ****** here. He literally can't win against Alduin.

 

[ATalentedMaid]

hm maybe not but can xeno goku affect type 2 abstracts?

AE type 2 is like immortality type 8, you don't need to affect it like what AE type 1 does, you still can be incapcitated.

 

[Braking]

hm maybe not but can xeno goku affect type 2 abstracts?

no. freyja was an abstract so idk why was that added

 

[Orange]

He can either summon demigra who can mind hax 4D abstarct type 1 people

 

[Keeweed]

I really don’t see what Alduin has that would allow him to win. I don’t know where this impression of Alduin being a super hax lord come from, but he’s a very generic low 2-C.

Though round one is dumb, Alduin blitzes.

For round two, SBA has the characters at their strongest, so Goku seals. Like he resists practically all of Alduin’s hax, and while some people for some strange reason like to wank Alduin’s hax into being high 1-B. It isn’t, so Goku resist and destroys.

 

[CrystalValley]

what does Goku do against conceptual manipulation? doesn't seem like he'd be able to do anything against that or anyone in Dragon Ball.

 

[Keeweed]

Alduin shouldn’t even have conceptual manipulation. I’m not even sure if there was a revision to add it, but let me check.

 

[Braking]

are any of his abilities passive?

 

[Keeweed]

Just checked, the conceptual manipulation seems to be added without revisions. So Alduin doesn’t have it. Ignoring how Alduin can’t even directly attack you with the thu’um’s hax (like the information manipulation and the rest of that combo) because that’s just how he summons the thu’um. The actual thing hitting you would just be ice or fire and stuff.

 

[Keeweed]

are any of his abilities passive?

Alduin or Goku? Alduin definitely doesn’t have passives.

 

[Braking]

Alduin or Goku? Alduin definitely doesn’t have passives.

i ment alduin but like yes.

 

[Orange]

Goku summons chronoa, trunks, and demigra to passively DD, mind hax him, or casualty, time stop that bypasses resistance, power null, seal, bfr or static **** him, passive probability manipulation and negation meaning any non though based attack would never land while their hax would 100% land, plus all of them have the keysword, and trunks has the awakened version which is even more busted
Tho I have a question, is the main source of his powers has demonic/unholy/magic based origin?

 

[Keeweed]

Alduin is the concept of the end of time. Don’t think the time stop is going to work. Though it doesn’t matter because Goku absolutely destroys anyways.

Alduin’s powers come from warping existence. I think some may also come from magic, but barely any of them.

 

[sanicspood]

goku fra if this isnt a stomp

 

[Orange]

Alduin is the concept of the end of time. Don’t think the time stop is going to work. Though it doesn’t matter because Goku absolutely destroys anyways.

Alduin’s powers come from warping existence. I think some may also come from magic, but barely any of them.

Well people in dbh casually moves in areas with no time but get time stopped, it also bypasses resistance [but correct me if I'm wrong]
Also if he's power comes from Reality warping or magic, goku resist those two on a 2-A level [could be wrong, but people with the keysword resists demonic hax that includes reality warping]
Also by summoning the haxes will be involved: transmutation, bfr that also seals people outside of time itself, erasing their records and undoing their actions, it works on people with acasualty type 1&4, EE, sealing, higher dimensional manipulation, Mind hax, morality, corruption and madness manipulation, power null that bypasses resistance [I think?] , casualty manipulation and acausuality type 1&4 and probability manipulation that works on acausuals that have type 1&4, time manipulation that bypasses resistance on a 2-A level scale, damage transfer, duplicating, time travel, multiple power nulls, memory erasure, life force absrobtion, and the greatest, stamina damage and DD
Can he counter these?

 

[TheLastStylebender]

Goku is absolutely ****** here. He literally can't win against Alduin.

Can u explain why?

 

[Keeweed]

Alduin resist EE, higher dimensional manipulation, Mind hax, morality, corruption and madness manipulation, power null, and causality manipulation and he has layers of resistances too because he upscales from other dragons who use all of that for pretty much basic conversations. (And for madness he scales to characters that can enter the Shivering Isles)

Though he doesn’t resist Sealing and I believe Goku with the keysword opens with that, and Goku resist Alduin’s hack for the most part.

So he wins pretty easily still.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Alduin resist EE, higher dimensional manipulation, Mind hax, morality, corruption and madness manipulation, power null, and causality manipulation and he has layers of resistances too because he upscales from other dragons who use all of that for pretty much basic conversations. (And for madness he scales to characters that can enter the Shivering Isles)

Though he doesn’t resist Sealing and I believe Goku with the keysword opens with that, and Goku resist hack for the most part.

So he wins pretty easily still.

 

[Braking]

Also if he's power comes from Reality warping goku resist those two on a 2-A level [could be wrong, but people with the keysword resists demonic hax that includes reality warping]

the keysword is not used here. he never said that goku has keysword

 

[sanicspood]

but the op didnt say goku has the keyword on him in this fight

 

[Keeweed]

SBA has the characters at their strongest, which would be keysword Goku.

 

[sanicspood]

isnt that only for standard stats? the keyword is optional equipment

 

[Orange]

Alduin resist EE, higher dimensional manipulation, Mind hax, morality, corruption and madness manipulation, power null, and causality manipulation and he has layers of resistances too because he upscales from other dragons who use all of that for pretty much basic conversations. (And for madness he scales to characters that can enter the Shivering Isles)

Though he doesn’t resist Sealing and I believe Goku with the keysword opens with that, and Goku resist Alduin’s hack for the most part.

So he wins pretty easily still.

How high is his mind, ee, and higher dimensional manipulation and power null resistance?

but the op didnt say goku has the keyword on him in this fight

The others do tho, especially trunks who has the awakened version

 

[Dereck03]

Alduin almost incon with L2-C anos and he's lossing to Xeno Goku here? HTF Call @TOAAPRESENCE1

 

[Braking]

First of all. goku does not start with summoning domino even said he does not start with it. he starts with punching and ki blasts

 

[Keeweed]

“How high is his mind, ee, and higher dimensional manipulation and power null resistance?”

I want to ask first, how high is Goku’s?

I’ve heard people say it’s 2-A hax, but I’ve also heard people say we don’t treat hax that way. So how much does Goku’s hax upscale from resistances.

 

[Keeweed]

Alduin almost incon with L2-C anos and he's lossing to Xeno Goku here? HTF Call @TOAAPRESENCE1

He shouldn’t have been. He was only inconclusiving because people wank him to high heavens.

 

[Braking]

the SBA are just options for versus threads.

 

[Keeweed]

Yes but without putting different options, SBA takes priority.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Just checked, the conceptual manipulation seems to be added without revisions. So Alduin doesn’t have it. Ignoring how Alduin can’t even directly attack you with the thu’um’s hax (like the information manipulation and the rest of that combo) because that’s just how he summons the thu’um. The actual thing hitting you would just be ice or fire and stuff.

It was added with a CTR, keweed.

 

[Dereck03]

He shouldn’t have been. He was only inconclusiving because people wank him to high heavens.

nvm, Alduin get stomped at the end of that thread... Anyway you guys should call @TOAAPRESENCE1 he is one of the best at explaining about alduin

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

He shouldn’t have been. He was only inconclusiving because people wank him to high heavens.

And other downplay to hell

 

[Orange]

“How high is his mind, ee, and higher dimensional manipulation and power null resistance?”

I want to ask first, how high is Goku’s?

I’ve heard people say it’s 2-A hax, but I’ve also heard people say we don’t treat hax that way. So how much does Goku’s hax upscale from resistances.

For goku's summons: mind hax works on 4D abstract existence type 1 beings, power null that works on people that have 2-A resistance to power null, time manipulation that bypasses resistance too on people who can resist multiversal level time stop, EE can erase people from history and erase entire timelines probability manipulation that works on acausuals type 1&4 [take it as you will]

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Well people in dbh casually moves in areas with no time but get time stopped, it also bypasses resistance [but correct me if I'm wrong]

No, it would not ranted him to immeasurable speed, stop it

Also if he's power comes from Reality warping or magic, goku resist those two on a 2-A level [could be wrong, but people with the keysword resists demonic hax that includes reality warping]

Goku never took an hit from either conceptual manip or reality warping

Keyword is just a sword with a sealing hax

And no, you can't measured the potency of reality warping with tier, excluding tier 1,is All about how depth the verse understanding to the conceptual manip/reality warping

Also by summoning the haxes will be involved: transmutation, bfr that also seals people outside of time itself, erasing their records and undoing their actions, it works on people with acasualty type 1&4

Feats

, EE, sealing, higher dimensional manipulation, Mind hax, morality, corruption and madness manipulation, power null that bypasses resistance [I think?] ,

Alduin resist that on H1B level

Heck some inferior dragon also resist to it

casualty manipulation and acausuality type 1&4 and probability manipulation that works on acausuals that have type 1&4,

Feats

time manipulation that bypasses resistance on a 2-A level scale,

?

You don't understand how hax works don't ya?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

For goku's summons: mind hax works on 4D abstract existence type 1 beings, power null that works on people that have 2-A resistance to power null, time manipulation that bypasses resistance too on people who can resist multiversal level time stop, EE can erase people from history and erase entire timelines probability manipulation that works on acausuals type 1&4 [take it as you will]

So basically 4D mind hax and powernull, 4D time stop, alduin already resist EE

Alduin void hax also erases someone compleatly from history and time