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Alduin vs The Worm in Waiting

I don't thiiiiiiink type 2 abstract is enough to defend against mindhax, and Worm can't kill Alduin, but if it comes right down to it, he can probably mindhax. If he can't, probably inconclusive.
 
The worm's description implies baseline Low 2-C whereas Alduin can outright kill 22 Low 2-C beings in a single attack, so he has the advantage in AP and Durability. However, The Worm can passively mindhax Alduin. My vote is inconclusive.
 
Just being reliant on a conception wouldn't make your mind any more complex and hard to hax

So Nihilus for reasons above
 
I brought up abstract because Alduin can't kill him


But yeah, I don't think either can really do anything to each other since both have weird acausality
 
Nihilus for reasons above is VSBW code for "It's a stomp because passive hax says x can't do squat", with X being Alduin.
 
Alduin could kill an abstract like the worm. As noted in the profile, Alduin "Can rip time asunder and devour all of time. Can slow and stop time in its track, or accelerate it. Can devour an enemy's time, making them grow younger or older" and "Everything that he eats is erased from time itself". This would mean he could directly affect time and destroy the worm if it weren't for the passive mindhax.
 
Not sure being the own source of it's existence stops it from ceasing existence across time

But yes, being able to literally win by standing there doing nothing is a stomp considering nothing the opposition can do will get them a win
 
SBA says you don't need to kill to win, and, he can easily just Incap with mindhax as Alduin literally cannot do anything according to his own will
 
Except it's passive and even if it wasn't passive Alduin can't do anything

So

Exterminatus pending
 
If only Alduin had a conceptual shotgun, then he'd stand a chance.
 
Wasn't Bend Will something the Dragonborn gets in his DLC key which Alduin didn't fight?
 
That's because Matt hasn't added resistances/explainations as of yet and the battle spam is making that take even longer.

Dragons have shouting matches with each other on the regular. It would be ridiculous for Alduin to be done in by the effects of a shout like that.
 
Pretty sure I read about Alduin mocking you for trying to use Bend Will on him if you do the DLC before the base game, but I haven't done it myself.
 
Nope, mindhax can't **** with Alduin. Not to mention, Alduin has void manipulation that he can affect the non-existent beings as well. The Worm won't escape the stomach of World Eater, which I woud vouch for that
 
I don't see how it is relevant. Alduin has affected abstract beings like Shor and Leaper Demon King (Dagon) slightly above the Worm here with the exception of Shor. He traded blows and defeated one of them removing the abstract concept and imposing another on LDK.
 
Considering all the votes for the wormboi are based on them mindhaxing and Alduin resists, those should probably be removed.

That said, the guy can eat stuff from time, so what's stopping him from eating something fused with the abstract form of time?
 
The Worm existed outside time but also created itself through time paradoxes and exists solely as a knot of them... it's weird. But the ability to "create yourself" kiiiinda helps
 
So Alduin noms him (owo) and he just kinda resurrects himself

seems legit for an inconclusive
 
That said, if they can just remake themselves, wouldn't they have resurrection?
 
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