Fallen_Angelicx
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Now that i realize. I didnt compare their AP in numbers correctly. Sorry about that, Akira is 1.08x stronger than akira here.Everyone is claiming the AP gap between the two is 1.3x, but that’s not the case
Ive stated and implied multiple times they are technically evenly matched in strength numerous times in this debate such as;The imposter is shown to be far stronger than the crewmates, easily one-shoting them. As such, both are likely equal in strength.
Despite me getting their numbers wrong, i still acknowledged what the imposter scales from.The imposter has every advantage possible to maneuver around akira's strength (it has class 5 LS) and Inferior but some skill even his gadgets and a firearm and it's physical weaponry like it's tongueEVEN THE MAP WHICH ITS FAMILIAR WITH to be using oxygen depletion to kill a technically equal strength opponent.
I beg you pardon? The reason the imposter gets taken out fast here is due to the combat and skill ability of akira. He would beat the imposter to a pulp as it decides to engage akira in cqc, albeit overtime and he wouldnt be able to escape akira actively doing this.In that case, I personally don’t see how Akira can take them down as quickly as Fallen Angel is claiming.
No, this is because that's whats in-character for the imposter to do. That's the point of their role in the game, to kill the cremates by physical means albeit having the capabilities to sabatoge numerous important areas on their ship to distract them from their tasks and its murders. It knows it can defeat the crewmates as they cant fight back which is why it uses cqc to kill. This point isnt very solid. If we see goku actively shoot a kamehameha to end every match, why cant i assume he'd do that in a versus debate? It applies here, the imposter actively engages its victims in close combat as a starting move.because they can easily defeat the crew, making other tactics unnecessary.
I dont disagree and im in complete agreement with this perspective of the imposter. I also see the imposter as someone who'd try each and every tactic from least to greatest But it has too many ways to attack akira here, with its hands, its tounge or use its gun up close and Ive already stated and acknowledge this point such as here;In my eyes, an assassin-type like that wouldn’t just resort to the same tactics over and over again hoping that this time it would work
The imposter has every advantage possible to maneuver around akira's strength (it has class 5 LS) and Inferior but some skill even his gadgets and a firearm and it's physical weaponry like it's tongue EVEN THE MAP WHICH ITS FAMILIAR WITH to be using oxygen depletion to kill a technically equal strength opponen
I obviously do not disagree with that point.be)Because it has alot of range and against a stronger opponent it can just utilize piercing damage and range to fight back or just shoot bro, but we established that won't be a conclusion seeing the speed of akira. And if the imposter is the assasin as you claim it to be... Why would it be using gadgets and technology against a physical fighter when said assasin has stealth mastery, a long ass tongue and a literal fire arm to counter against.... Just a slightly stronger opponent
He wont be able to harm akira with his physical hits. How's that an advantage?To that you may say, “but Akira’s way more durable and imposter would just resort to close quarters, making them lose.” Thing is, Akira’s durability actually makes it more in favor of imposter
Ive already stated the tactics the imposter would use against akira and why'd they'd be ineffective and it's not all due to his durability and suit multiple times, and ive debunked why the imposter would sabotage oxygen as a first move. The moment it rushes akira will be the moment it would lose as akira would beat the imposter until it cant move as it realizes it has a gun and we all know using a gun to shoot its opponent is one of the imposters starting move, albeit after it incacipates its opponents by hitting them to the ground.They’d instead see an issue (ie, Akira dodging/tanking attacks) and then change their strategy (ie, escaping the situation and sabotaging oxygen.)
That would be true if it didnt use this as a last resort when it wants to rid all crewmates at once despite them not even being able to fight back. It has other ways to work smarter than harder, like simply being the assasin it is and locking off the lights then use its stealth to sneak akira in the dark and use piercing damage or shoot him with its gun. But ive established why this doesnt work either.That’s not cowardly, that’s working smarter rather then harder.
First of all, Yes, btw the shapeshifter and the imposter are different entity. This said alien kills victims who cant fight back WITH stealth, something it needs or its getting booted outside the ship to die. This doesnt sound impressive at all for combat skill.Yes, Akira’s pretty skilled, but do you seriously think someone with the skill of an average college rugby player would be able to overcome a shapeshifting stealthy alien parasite assassin? Personally, I don’t think so
Secondly, What skill feats does the imposter has to match akira? The ones presented were simply feats applicable in the form of science and tech, not combat.
Thirdly, Ive already given skill feats for akira in combat which would be enough to piece up the imposter in cqc. The imposter remains less skilled unless feats are brought up about its skills in combat.
4th, whats the downplay here for? Which average rugby player is tackling a inhumanely obese creature through 3 doors and over the edge of an apartment while fatigued or running a sparthlaton in a short timeframe? Thats an insult to my boi.
So what if speed is equalized? He would be able to dodge the imposter's attacks due to his superior skill and acrobatics here, whats wrong with that reasoning? Are you saying it is not possible to dodge attacks as fast as you with these advantages? He Also doeSnt need to rush the imposter either, the imposter's starting move against an opponent he's about to face is rushing them to kill them as we see in the game and it wouldnt be strange for me to say this as theyre locked in the cafeteria with no one around to see the imposter commit this murder, and this is why it loses. Getting intp cqc with akira would end up with akira beating it until it cant move as akira would realize its armed and has a long sharp tounge. Akira is gonna quickly finish it.P.S. speed is equalized, so stop claiming that Akira would be able to dodge attacks and rush imposter down when they can do the same exact thing (if not better bc of shapeshifting and stealth)
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