Ainz vs Chowder

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yes

• Speed Equal
• SBA

Supreme Power: 3 (Pen, FDrybob, Blue)

Supreme Stomach:

Inconclusive:



I like food.

 

[Apeironaxim]

does Chowder have anything to stop Grasp Heart?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Hmm looking over chowder his biggest issues seems like they'll be death hax and his in character behavior...

 

[DeathNoodles]

I don't know why this match was made when Chowder is not even higher up on the strongest High 8-C non-smurf.

@Apeironaxim

Based on his profile, nope.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I mean, we gotta start from the bottom, right?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Ain't gonna lie, I like that Ainz image way better for the one he currently uses for his file.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Hey he's one spot up... Saying that I would have gone for anri first... While she is more dangerous shes also higher

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Ain't gonna lie, I like that Ainz image way better for the one he currently uses for his file.

We actually discussed changing but some people felt this one wasn't as clean...Though most agreed it was better looking

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Hey he's one spot up... Saying that I would have gone for anri first... While she is more dangerous shes also higher </div>

Anri is also my waifu, so how about no

 

[DeathNoodles]

Hey he's one spot up... Saying that I would have gone for anri first... While she is more dangerous shes also higher

A match for Ainz vs Toujou Karuna is already made, and he's on the higher spot than Anri is.

 

[Apeironaxim]

so...

Grasp Heart GG once in range then?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well then...I mean ainz immediatly ditches his armor and uses grasp hear/misc death hax/time hax...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Ain't gonna lie, I like that Ainz image way better for the one he currently uses for his file.

We actually discussed changing but some people felt this one wasn't as clean...Though most agreed it was better looking

Define "clean". Looks pretty "clean" to me.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz wouldn't even be in his armor, he's High 8-C physically without it

 

[DeathNoodles]

@Apeironaxim

But he has 7-B durability for someone who has High 8-C physical AP... Does he even need armour?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Define "clean". Looks pretty "clean" to me.

Don't ask me I was totally on board with using this image instead.

Also @death you only made yours two minutes before this one

No the armor is meaningless, its just a disguise he usually wears that restricts his magic until he desperses it.

 

[Apeironaxim]

no, i don't know where this armor thing is coming from

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I associate ainz eight c stat with momon, sorta forgot it's just his natral state. My apologies!

 

[DeathNoodles]

@The pen or the sword

After you mean.

But yeah, fair enough. I can wait for this match to conclude then.

 

[Apeironaxim]

would this be a stomp?

 

[DeathNoodles]

@Apeironaxim

Maybe?

It's better to wait for any Chowder supporters' points just in case though.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I mean do we need to chowder in character won't go for his hax right away, while ainz first move is a combo of death hax and time stop. While chowder has timestop he doesn't seem to resist so both of ainz moves kill chowder...

Fair enough we can wait for supporters to show up.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

His type 8 also takes a lot of time

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

ITs noted on his profile his type eight is about his show and not himself so Im not sure its even relevant...

 

[Sir_Ovens]

As long as the animators exist, Chowder can't die. Grasp heart does nothing.

 

[Apeironaxim]

then why does his profile say it doesn't apply to Chowder?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The Chowder that exists outside the animation can just rewind before Chowder died and try again. Like, there are layers to Chowder's type 8. Also I'm pretty sure Chowder coughed up his own heart before, I need to check to be sure.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Grasp Heart crushes the heart and induces death hax

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

As long as the animators exist, Chowder can't die. Grasp heart does nothing.

Im not so sure on this, thats how it works in chowders world as he is an animated character but being dragged into a nuetral/real world IE new york would that still apply?

Further even if he has coughed up his heart it's not liable to matter, ainz grasp heart induces death magically alongside the whole heart crushing scenario further it stuns the person it's used on. He's also opened with magic such as death more often then he reaches for grasp heart.

 

[DeathNoodles]

What happens to victims inflicted by Ainz's Despair Aura IV? What do they do after becoming insane?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

We're not sure overall, I think it involves a large dosage of fear but beyond that? No real idea as he's never used it before. We know what the final tier does Ie kill but outside that we've only seen the first tier and had the second/third tiers described. Fourth tiers description was literally something like madness.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz would likely be using Despair Aura V first, not IV

and he could just stand next to Chowder if his type 8 keeps resurrecting him

 

[DeathNoodles]

Well, if I heard the description of the ability correctly, Despair Aura II causes the victim to want to flee from Ainz at all costs, and them being unable to take combat-related actions against Ainz. Maybe one of the ways Ainz could defeat Chowder is to make Chowder self-BFR via Despair Aura II?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Probably would work though he'd be better off using despair aura three iirc its the version that doesn't dissapear when you get out of range, instead it leaves a permenant status effect you need to get cured by another npc/mage

 

[Apeironaxim]

• Despair Aura I: Has a chance (if not resisted by ability, equipment, level difference, etc.) of causing Fear. Fear refers to an abnormal status of being afraid, which inflicts a penalty to all actions. Besides inflicting fear, it can reduce the stats of its victims. Normally, Despair Auras would not have an effect on the level 100 NPCs, but when equipped with the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown, its effect can be strengthened.
• Despair Aura II: Has a chance of causing Panic. Panic is a more severe version of Fear, caused by stacking additional Fear effects on each other. Anyone afflicted by that status will want to flee the ability user at all costs ― in other words, they will be unable to take any combat-related actions against that person.
• Despair Aura III: Has a chance of causing Confusion. This can only happen if the target does not have any recovery measures prepare.
• Despair Aura IV: Has a chance of causing Insanity. Insanity is an extremely annoying bad status, being a permanent version of Confusion. It cannot be removed without magic from a third party.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Ahh my bad!

 

[DeathNoodles]

Alright.

Does it state anywhere that causing Confusion is an an another version of causing Fear/Panic?

Because it seems that the only effects that shows that the versions of Despair Aura is interconnected is Despair Aura I and II (thus, II should be able to achieve all the effects of I on top of its own).

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

no it seems confusion and panic/fear are different statuses saying that I can see chowder running away if he's exposed to one of the first two auras.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Ainz would likely be using Despair Aura V first, not IV
and he could just stand next to Chowder if his type 8 keeps resurrecting him

if Ainz is gonna use any mental magic, it wouldn't be his Despair Auras first, it would be Dominate, which is just mind control, which Chowder also doesn't resist

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

True ainz could just use dominate...Huh it's easy to forget how much magic ainz has when so many of his fights are basically "I said die" the end.